Author Topic: I would like the B-29 (Read 6356 times)

gear · « **Reply #30 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:40:18 PM »

Specifications:
Boeing B-29A Superfortress
Dimensions:
Wing span: 141 ft. 3 in (43.05 m)
Length: 99 ft. 0 in (30.17 m)
Height: 29 ft. 7 in (9.02 m)
Wing Area: 1,736 sq ft (529.13 sq m)
Weights:
Empty: 72,208 lb (32,752 kg)
Maximum Take-Off: 140,000 lb (63,502 kg)
Performance:
Maximum Speed: 399 m.p.h. (642 km/h) at 30,000 ft (9,144 m)
Service Ceiling: 23,950 ft (7,299 m)
Combat Ceiling: 36,150 ft (11,018 m)
Normal Range: 4,200 miles (6,759 km)
(with 18,000 lbs. (8,164 kg) bombs)
Powerplant:
Four Wright Aeronautical R-3350-57 Twin Row Radial
2,200 hp (1,640 kw) take-off, 2,500 hp (1,864) WE, Air Cooled
Armament:
Eight or twelve 50-cal. machine-guns. One 20mm cannon.
Maximum bomb Load: 20,000 lbs. (9,0710 kg)

Imagine what a formation could do with a 20000 pound payload(40 5oo pounders/20 1ooo pounders)

This would make the ammo bunkers a primary target:aok

frank3 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 20, 2006, 03:37:56 PM »

It could carry the weight, but could it carry that many bombs? (did it have that many holding points)

gear · « **Reply #32 on:** March 20, 2006, 04:29:41 PM »

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Originally posted by frank3
It could carry the weight, but could it carry that many bombs? (did it have that many holding points)

Typical B-29 bomb load, ready for loadingaprox 200 eggs:O

frank3 · « **Reply #33 on:** March 20, 2006, 04:40:26 PM »

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Originally posted by gear

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I'D FLY THAT!

gear · « **Reply #34 on:** March 20, 2006, 04:50:44 PM »

I took awhile but there's a full picture of the load out.
you count them and then multiply by 3 for a formation in the MA.

Stallled · « **Reply #35 on:** March 20, 2006, 05:41:27 PM »

Does anyone remember that kid shark88 who constantly created a new thread every day requesting a b29 with a nuke?

This was in the ah1 days.

Anyway, after probably thousands of replies with all the threads total, we concluded that a nuke was out of the question and would totally unbalance gameplay, and a b29 was not necessary but could only be implemented with a high perk point cost.

ChopSaw · « **Reply #36 on:** March 20, 2006, 06:37:32 PM »

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Originally posted by gear
234 there's a useless bird.May be fast but very small payload.

Sure it is. Never said it wasn't. Just said B-29 should be perked more like it than a Me262.

ChopSaw · « **Reply #37 on:** March 20, 2006, 06:41:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Stallled
Does anyone remember that kid shark88 who constantly created a new thread every day requesting a b29 with a nuke? This was in the ah1 days.

Anyway, after probably thousands of replies with all the threads total, we concluded that a nuke was out of the question and would totally unbalance gameplay, and a b29 was not necessary but could only be implemented with a high perk point cost.

Who is this "we" you speak of?

gear · « **Reply #38 on:** March 20, 2006, 07:46:22 PM »

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Originally posted by ChopSaw
Sure it is. Never said it wasn't. Just said B-29 should be perked more like it than a Me262.Perked, yes, but as much as a 262? It's not as if it's likely they'll put a nuke in it. I'd say more along the lines of the Ar234 in perks. Enough to keep it from being commonly used for your scenario.

The 234 carries a max paload of 1500 pounds and has no other offensive qualities .It's perked at 55.
Now on the other hand thfe 262 is a good offensive fighter and is perked at182.

Now a b29 has good defensive fire power and has a VERY large payload(see a bove photo. count them well over 150 bombs) so why perk it like an ar234:huh

gear · « **Reply #39 on:** March 20, 2006, 07:48:34 PM »

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Originally posted by viper215
Yea 2 tons of bombs and 300+mph at 31,000ft......NO

more like 10 tons

Masherbrum · « **Reply #40 on:** March 20, 2006, 08:08:01 PM »

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Originally posted by gear
The 234 carries a max paload of 1500 pounds and has no other offensive qualities .It's perked at 55.
Now on the other hand thfe 262 is a good offensive fighter and is perked at182.

Now a b29 has good defensive fire power and has a VERY large payload(see a bove photo. count them well over 150 bombs) so why perk it like an ar234:huh

Yer wasting your time arguing with ChopSaw. He'll be right regardless.

Karaya

gear · « **Reply #41 on:** March 20, 2006, 09:10:57 PM »

Like there will ever be a b29 in here.

ChopSaw · « **Reply #42 on:** March 20, 2006, 10:20:05 PM »

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Originally posted by gear
The 234 carries a max paload of 1500 pounds and has no other offensive qualities .It's perked at 55.
Now on the other hand thfe 262 is a good offensive fighter and is perked at182.

Now a b29 has good defensive fire power and has a VERY large payload(see a bove photo. count them well over 150 bombs) so why perk it like an ar234:huh

The Ar234 actually carries more like 3,300 lbs. of bombs. What you see there are 500 kg bombs not 500 lb. bombs. Not that it makes much difference, for the purposes of this discussion, under current MA settings. Right now the thing isn't much of a threat, although I have heard of them recently downing cv's when in formation. Their main claim to fame is the speed. Almost impossible to catch unless you're high when it comes by and dive on it or happen to be around in a 262. Given it's capabilities in AH, I don't know why it's perked the way it is.

The B-29 does have a massive bomb capacity, but look at the Lancaster III. Right now it's heaviest payload is 14 x 1,000 lb. bombs. At most the B-29 could carry 6 more of those. Yes, that's significant, but it doesn't make it the wonder bomber game buster of all time. There may be a lot of bombs in your picture, but what weight are they? If they're 100 lb. or 250 lb. they wouldn't do much in AH.

Then there's HTC and what they'll model for the load out. It's obvious they'll never give us a nuke and it's unlikely they'll give us a 22,000 lb. earthquake bomb. I'm told the Lancaster is supposed to have been able to carry that.

What you're looking at is a bit more defensive firepower, a bit more speed and a bit more ordnance capacity. I just don't think that's enough more to perk it so high every fighter around is going swarming it just to shoot down a high perk plane. It wouldn't be impossible to catch or to shoot down.

gear · « **Reply #43 on:** March 21, 2006, 07:14:11 AM »

This subject has been hashed about numours times before.
The lancaster carries a large payload so why do we need the b29?
If anything there should be more axsis aircraft added:aok

gear · « **Reply #44 on:** March 21, 2006, 07:30:50 AM »

Well we know there not 1000 pounders.