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Offline EN4CER

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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2006, 06:41:32 AM »
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I've never seen ENY limits go over 8 myself.


I'll take 8 any day of the week. Try 33. An ENY that high is quite frustrating for a GVer since your are limited to T34s and grounder  (Baseball phrase used as slang for "Easy") cannon fodder such as M8s, M16s, and M3s. When fighting a base that is defended by 1 or 2 Tigers and a small air cap it's no longer a challenge, it's a slaughter.

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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2006, 06:56:31 AM »
Morph said

There is no father land. There will be no burnings of bodies in any town squares. The men in black suits will not come and take you and your family away to a slave camp... if you switch sides.


I said

Why, when I am fighting the war should I have to leave my country to get gangbanged by the people who came to my country because they were loosing to us?

If that makes any sence to someone let me know.


What sounds more intellegent and makes more sence?

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Offline Casper1

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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2006, 07:03:36 AM »
At least you're winning and not trying to enjoy the game when your team is outnumbered greatly.  I find the game very 'annoying' when the sides are out of balance (even when my side is the horde).

Knights been hurtin lately...lol.

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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2006, 07:05:02 AM »
Enforcer, i well understand that. But 40 Knits vs 180 Bish/Rook is slaughter as well. I was actually quite happy to have to fight P47 D40/D25 etc and not LA7 and Spit16 en masses.


Pieper, youre making perfect sense to me there. Im not sure though how you can stop the dweebish masses from taking the easy way (=horde side) to kills.
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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2006, 07:07:03 AM »
This isn't directed at any one person, but you know... Posting just to post doesn't solve anything and usually lowers the value of an individuals merit when they do have a good suggestion.

Think before you answer comments or questions regarding game issues. Ask yourself these questions...

Does the topic have merit?
Does the topic affect individual game play?
Does the topic affect overall game play?

In this case, the answers are yes to all three. So now it's not time to bash the person who wrote the topic, it's time to think of suggestions that may or may not be used by HT to improve the situation. And it's time to voice valid opinions on why you feel it does or does not affect the above.
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2006, 07:14:00 AM »
Casper1 you're preaching to the choir. The side inballance sucks both ways and in my true heartfelt belief, eny dissablements are not helping. The horders still horde to the country with the ad vantage no matter the plane. Its easy to kill a La-7 with a P-40 or even SBD when numbers so out of ballance.

The whole purpose for eny in first place was to even the sides. Here lately (months on end), it has and will continue to fail. Ithink we need something to go along with eny to keep the sideswaping down so that players of one country who never change arent hurt so bad.

What are we supposed to do? Change to the country that we are killing and build them back up?



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Why, when I am fighting the war should I have to leave my country to get gangbanged by the people who came to my country because they were loosing to us?
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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2006, 07:22:04 AM »
pieper sorry but you get more perks flying for team with lowest number than you get for reset. 1 sortie out numbered greatly can get you 40 to 100 perks if in right plane and land multi kills. flew la5  got 7 kills  1 sortie ended up with 89 perks. I myself changed alot to side with less numbers. I don't think anyone changes to try to get 25 perks and if someone does its not for 25 perks. next time rooks have big numbers flim your sorties i bet you see alot of hurri 2 p40's la5's flying. I have film of 125 rooks 78 bish  and 36 knits and 8 of us defending base were in hurri 2's and spit 5's not 1 la7. i think it works fine about best you can do unless you go to 2 sides.

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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2006, 07:31:05 AM »
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pieper sorry but you get more perks flying for team with lowest number than you get for reset. 1 sortie out numbered greatly can get you 40 to 100 perks if in right plane and land multi kills. flew la5  got 7 kills  1 sortie ended up with 89 perks. I myself changed alot to side with less numbers. I don't think anyone changes to try to get 25 perks and if someone does its not for 25 perks. next time rooks have big numbers flim your sorties i bet you see alot of hurri 2 p40's la5's flying. I have film of 125 rooks 78 bish  and 36 knits and 8 of us defending base were in hurri 2's and spit 5's not 1 la7. i think it works fine about best you can do unless you go to 2 sides.


Its not working then, one team having a 22 eny is not as balanced as it could be......and thats getting to be normal. We don't want the horde of sideswappers. There not Rooks unless we are winning, and there a henderence. Of corse they come to winning country for 25 perks.....It's more than they can earn in a week of real fighting.


Why, when I am fighting the war should I have to leave my country to get gangbanged by the people who came to my country because they were loosing to us?
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2006, 07:40:25 AM »
A horde is a horde is a horde.

Better idea.

You can change countries once per tour
And only if your current country has more numbers then the country your switching to at that particular time


Enforce ENY by zone rather then the entire country
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2006, 08:20:23 AM »
Part of the problem is the myth that you can switch sides to the side that is going to win and get perk points.

You can switch sides every 6 hours now ... not 12 hours. One must be a member of the country for 6 hours or more to get reset perk points.

Most people jump to the most populated country due to the fact that they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag and can't find their ACM arse with both hands.

These are the people that NEED to fly with the horde inorder to be successful or get perks. As Rod pointed out ... if they flew with the outnumbered team ... upped an early war ride and killed at least 2 people per sortie ... they would gain more perks in 1/2 hour than what they would get for the silly reset. Just last week I flew 2 sorties and got over 200 perks ... that is equal to 8 resets.

ENY has the ability to bite all countries ... and it does. If you choose to fly for only one country, then when it hits your country ... suck it up and learn to fly the other rides. It becomes an invaluable experience when having to fight them on other occasions.

Why is that those who come to post concerns over ENY all have to point out that it's a problem only when it effects them. Never have I seen someone who was on the chitty end of the stick come in here and complain that ENY should be changed so that those who are steamrolling them should be able to fly all the late war monsters and kick their butt even harder.

There is nothing wrong with side switching as it stands now. Myself and our squad enjoys the current freedom to switch sides. We generally switch to the side that has the LEAST amount of players cause that is where the fights are. Flying for the country that has the most amount of players is extremely boring.
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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2006, 08:30:23 AM »
Slapshot.......you're missin the whole picture....LOL

QUOTE]Never have I seen someone who was on the chitty end of the stick come in here and complain that ENY should be changed so that those who are steamrolling them should be able to fly all the late war monsters and kick their butt even harder.[/QUOTE]

Those are the people who's whines created eny....which was designed to even sides. Not give you more perkies. Do you see it evening sides? Looks to me like you are missusing the arena.

Why, when I am fighting the wargame should I have to leave my country to get gangbanged by the people who came to my country because they were loosing to us?[
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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2006, 08:33:17 AM »
LMAO last night about 9 pm est there were approx  170 bish , 170 knits , 270 rooks.  The eny is fine cheaper temps and more targets.   What, you want  privileges because you are side loyal .
 Approx how many squads are always rooks ?  If this were to apply to all rook squads the eny would be in effect useless. You would use the side switches as cannon fodder while you pick with high eny planes.


Nahhh its fine where it is.



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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2006, 08:42:22 AM »
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
A horde is a horde is a horde.

Better idea.

You can change countries once per tour
And only if your current country has more numbers then the country your switching to at that particular time


Enforce ENY by zone rather then the entire country


Now there is an idea . Or from base of origin Big mission ups and the tag along pickers get stuck flying  A6m2 or m8 . that would stop the hoard I'd think.


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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2006, 08:44:41 AM »
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LMAO last night about 9 pm est there were approx  170 bish , 170 knits , 270 rooks.  The eny is fine cheaper temps and more targets.   What, you want  privileges because you are side loyal .
 Approx how many squads are always rooks ?  If this were to apply to all rook squads the eny would be in effect useless. You would use the side switches as cannon fodder while you pick with high eny planes.


Nahhh its fine where it is.



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Precisely my point.....ENY was designed to stop those numbers.....I want them stoped as do many other players. Obviously its not doing what it was designed for......we need to slow down the sideswapping to even the numbers.
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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2006, 09:22:33 AM »
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Precisely my point.....ENY was designed to stop those numbers.....I want them stoped as do many other players. Obviously its not doing what it was designed for......we need to slow down the sideswapping to even the numbers.


It was not designed to stop those numbers. It was designed to minimize the side imbalnces.

And it has done so. To belive other wise is very selective memory of how long the side imablances used to last.


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