Author Topic: New ENY gripe (Read 4837 times)

hitech · « **Reply #45 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:34:54 PM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
First of all in responce to OOZ's claim that he has never seen the ENY higher than 7...Well you have obviously never flown rooks...We are consistently upper 20's sometimes high 30's when we are winning wars! It is ridiculous...Here is what I propose....Every morning when the scores are updated, you can only obtain "win the war points" when on the country you were loyal to at the time of score update...OR make it so a player has to be with a country for a mininum of six hours before eligible to be awarded points for the war being won...I think this will show a major cut back in side switching for points, and help keep our ENY down....
opinions?

You never have been able to switch sides and recieve the war win perk points. It works now exactly as you wish it to.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #46 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:36:16 PM »

I'm not sure people sitting in the tower contribute to ENY or not, but I have noticed these jerks lounging around the ready room in crusted over pants poring over thier copies of "Sheep 'Uns." (A "Married with Children" reference there.)

Donzo · « **Reply #47 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:51:54 PM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
First of all in responce to OOZ's claim that he has never seen the ENY higher than 7...Well you have obviously never flown rooks...We are consistently upper 20's sometimes high 30's when we are winning wars! It is ridiculous...Here is what I propose....Every morning when the scores are updated, you can only obtain "win the war points" when on the country you were loyal to at the time of score update...OR make it so a player has to be with a country for a mininum of six hours before eligible to be awarded points for the war being won...I think this will show a major cut back in side switching for points, and help keep our ENY down....

Okay one more gripe that pisses me off even more...It's bas enough we have these salamanders switching sides to get points because they cant score points themselves, and they fight alongside of us and bring up our ENY...But its even worse when you have some dweeb that switches sides late in the AM and just leaves his game logged in as he is gone and wait's for the reset and his points as he sleeps! Last night around 2am Eastern the rooks had the same 40 odd people sitting in the tower away from their game hoping to get points...I propose a server limit time? If someone is sitting in tower in active for more than 45 minutes than the host should drop their connection and log them out....There is no valid arguement in favor of allowing players to sit idle in the tower for 45 minutes...No reason you should stay logged in, whether its because you are waiting for points, or you left your game logged in to go get lunch...tough...Log back in after lunch it takes 30 seconds....

opinions?

I thought ENY was based on the # of people in flight.

HiTech?

cav58d · « **Reply #48 on:** March 20, 2006, 03:04:28 PM »

okay thank you HT...I thought anyone on the winning side got points no matter how long they have been there....Glad that has been cleared up...

~~Now what about people in tower....does that contribute to ENY or is it just in flight?~~

dedalos · « **Reply #49 on:** March 20, 2006, 03:04:29 PM »

Yep, way too match whinning about something they dont even know how it works

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 20, 2006, 04:13:14 PM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
okay thank you HT...I thought anyone on the winning side got points no matter how long they have been there....Glad that has been cleared up...

~~Now what about people in tower....does that contribute to ENY or is it just in flight?~~

What difference does it make? I get a few minutes here and there, rarely as long as an hour, where I can log in and get some flight time. If my wife calls me away for dinner, or to help with a project in the house, or whatever, I'll be damned if I'm going to log out and then log back in again, wasting a good 5 minutes it takes me to get logged back in, just to keep your precious ENY 2 points lower.

Next time before you call people names and rant and rave, try asking some questions about why things are the way they are and how things work. Your 500 word post could have been reduced to about 20, and offended no one. You would have gotten the same information.

SlapShot · « **Reply #51 on:** March 20, 2006, 05:45:14 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
There has been a shift in the winds lately. People seem to prefer to switch to the side that wins resets more often than fly outnumbered in better planes.

Maybe the timer needs to be associated with frequency. That is, you can change once every 12 hours the first time. Then your timer is bumped to 24 hours. If you change again a day later it goes to 2 days. Then 4 days, etc. For every day you don't change sides it decrements by one. Or something like that.

That would allow the people who want to balance sides to do so when needed, but prevent the fair weather flyers from tilting the odds so out of proportion.

I wouldn't like to see that Dok ... It's possible for me to change countries every night I log in ... I check the map ... check the roster ... switch countries accordingly.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #52 on:** March 20, 2006, 05:52:08 PM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
I wouldn't like to see that Dok ... It's possible for me to change countries every night I log in ... I check the map ... check the roster ... switch countries accordingly.

Folks like you ain't the problem, SlapShot. It's the folks who do the same checks and switch the opposite way.

cav58d · « **Reply #53 on:** March 20, 2006, 06:35:03 PM »

See Rule #4

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #54 on:** March 20, 2006, 07:37:15 PM »

Hehe, who's on the power trip? You are the one trying to dictate how we play for our 14.95 a month man. Ban this and disallow that.

Bah.

I spend my money the same as you do. The only one who gets to dictate rules to me here is HTC, and thats cause they own it. I'll make sure to log some tower time tonight for you.

MINNOW · « **Reply #55 on:** March 21, 2006, 12:12:51 AM »

ENY is fine... Just cause you cannot up an LA7 or Spit16 doesnt mean its broken. Hell, The other night Rook ENY was 37.

Learn to fly different planes and use different GVs

All are effective if used properly.

Dont go chasing a pack of LA7's in a P40E

I've been flying the 190A8's or the 109G14 alot lately or even the 38J

ENY is only in effect when one side has a # advantage... Fly with your squad or where the #s are and you should be fine

SFCHONDO · « **Reply #56 on:** March 21, 2006, 12:51:24 AM »

Well the ENY rearly effects me, due to 75% of the time I am flying 35+ eny planes. The only thing I disagree with about the ENY is that it should NOT effect perked planes. IMO if your willing to PAY for a plane then it should be available to you no matter what the ENY is.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 21, 2006, 12:59:08 AM »

That one I'll agree with. My regular ride is a 45 ENY plane, so it doesnt bother me in the least. But if you are willing to spend the points you should be able to take out a perk ride.

Docc · « **Reply #58 on:** March 21, 2006, 03:15:15 AM »

I agree.....just make the side-switchers pay the 25 perks out of each category and you won't see people switching to be on the winning side (because they think they will be awarded perks). Most people in the game don't know you have to be with a country for at least 6 hours to get winning perks but I've seen a lot stay online in the game for 6 hours or more at a time.

Remove the perks from side switching problem and I'm sure there will be a lot less of it happening.

richard_rd · « **Reply #59 on:** March 21, 2006, 10:25:20 AM »

If you don't want to be penalized with ENY switch to Knights, I can only remember 2 times in the past 2 months that we had ENY penalizing our side!!!

There are some players from knights that switch sides when we are heavely outnumbered, but IMHO the reason the ENY snowballs is because alot of knights just log off because they are tired of constantly being outnumbered 3 to 1 in the furballs.

Fly for Knights for a week straight and you will see why ENY is necessary, and you will probably start to feel that it does not kick in soon enough or hard enough!! Before you give me crap about crying, I dare you to just try it!! Fly for Knights for a week straight and you will see what a nightmare this game would be without ENY!!!

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Question for HiTech?

Can you publish the formula that you use for ENY. It seems like when the numbers of players in the MA are on the low side (like under 175 players, M-F, 5AM-3PM), that even when a side is heavely outnumbered that ENY does not kick in. Many days i have seen it like:

70 - Rook
60 - Bish
35 - Knit

and ENY does not kick in, but

140 - Rook
120 - Bish
70 - Knit

and ENY does go into effect.

Both scenerios are the same ratio of players, but it seems like if the number of players is low in the MA (like Non Prime Time), that it takes a higher ratio mis-balance to kick in the ENY penalty. I would like to see ENY kick in the same when the MA numbers are low, as it is even a bigger disadvantage for the short sided team when the total number of players is lower.