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Offline Morpheus

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Flying makes me sick now
« on: March 20, 2006, 03:58:58 PM »
I got trackIR today. Flying with this thing makes me want to puke. Flying mars' Pitts never made me feel this crapy. :eek:
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2006, 04:00:47 PM »
heheh :cool:  fun, aint it?
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2006, 04:03:51 PM »
Just have to tune it so it's not so jumpy.





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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2006, 04:04:41 PM »
yeah its pretty cool. How long does it take to get used to? I honestly feel like I was just out flying for hours...that drunk bubble head feeling.  And I just spent 15 minutes getting it all set up and fighting a few AI in lock-on. :lol
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dumb question
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2006, 04:09:17 PM »
what is track ir?

just asking
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2006, 04:29:17 PM »
Itīs an infrared headtracking cam. You control your views just by moving your head. Look at this site.

I took only a few days to getting used to it. But i know that a few people are getting kind of motion-sick and canīt use it at all.  :(
Just take your time for a proper set-up. It took me a while to find out which settings work best for me, but now i cannot think of flying without it anymore!
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Offline Balsy

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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2006, 04:36:00 PM »
Morpheus,

Let me put it this way, I get sick now if I fly WITHOUT TIR.

Its all what you get used too, and you will get used to it.

Try to tune it down to limit the amount of head tilt needed for a given "view".

Happy to send you my profile if you like.

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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2006, 04:43:54 PM »
morph it took me a weak or so to get use to it.

Just add a bunch of dead band and  make profiles aggresive .  This way seams to make head movement as small as possible.

I woald also recomend diable roll axis.





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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2006, 06:36:26 PM »
I got sick as all get out when I first started playing FPS' in the 90's. The games were just so darn fun I worked through it and got over the motion sickness. I think you'll be fine, Morph, just let your addiction to sims do the talking :)
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Offline Morpheus

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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2006, 10:25:24 PM »
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morph it took me a weak or so to get use to it.

Just add a bunch of dead band and  make profiles aggresive .  This way seams to make head movement as small as possible.

I woald also recomend diable roll axis.





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Yeah, i had to kill roll in AH. The view looked like i was standing on the canopy at times lol. It was fun at first then i started to get sick to my stomach again. It's a pretty dam cool invention though. I have to find something for my 6 view. I live looking out the back of the plane in AH. Maybe spend 20% of my flying time actually looking out the front of the plane. Right now, its a pain to turn my head and then peak around the back and up. I dont like that at all really. Im sure there is a way to work around that. I hope.
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2006, 10:31:48 PM »
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Happy to send you my profile if you like.


That would be great balsy. I still have no idea how to work the software it came with completely yet. Still playing with it alot.
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2006, 11:11:49 PM »
I've had it for months. Never have gotten used to it. I'll try hard for a few days, but the motion sickness kills me. I'm about ready to sell mine.
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Re: Flying makes me sick now
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2006, 03:47:32 AM »
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Originally posted by Morpheus
I got trackIR today. Flying with this thing makes me want to puke. Flying mars' Pitts never made me feel this crapy. :eek:


S'at so, huh? Well, yeah I'll take your word for it, it must be crud....



















Can I have it? :D
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Offline Speed55

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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2006, 05:29:03 AM »
Deadbands are really important.
When you set them up  right the thing is fantastic.

Use the edit profile option, with the head/gages/tracking boxes checked, and mess with the deadband settings.
I set mine like this:
Tacking type = Vector

                     Positon         -              Value
Yaw    
                       0-                             0
                       2-                             4
                       5-                             9
                       10-                           20
                       20-                           26
                       30-                           26
                       40-                           79
                       50-                           77

Pitch
                       0-                             0
                       2-                             6
                       5-                             17
                       10-                           18
                       20-                           23
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Roll
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                       5-                              1
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X
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                        5-                             8
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                        20-                           14
                        30-                           75
                        40-                           75
                        50-                           75
 
Y
                        0-                             1
                        2-                             25
                        5-                             80
                        10-                           80
                        20-                           80
                        30-                           79
                        40-                           79
                        50-                           69

Z
                        0-                             0
                        2-                             6
                        5-                             79
                        10-                           79
                        20-                           51
                        30-                           23
                        40-                           1
                        50-                           0

Good luck - 6 views = look left/lean right or look right/ lean left
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2006, 06:18:23 AM »
Morpheus,

You have mail.

To your point about looking AFT.  What you do is lean forward and down a bit with TIR, and then hit the recenter button.  Then when you sit up in a normal position, you will have the highest "seat" level and the aft most position in the cockpit.  It is a different point in each plane, and that just takes experimentation. When you ready to use the site, simply lean forward and down (like you would naturally) to get the site picture.

Balsy
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