House Passes Protections for the Unborn

[Eagler]

sturm/sandman
dunno if the fact you both don't own/watch tv give your opinions any weight  

think that sounds extreme to the point of kooky, glad to see you both are pro choicers  

Eagler

[Mighty1]

I'm torn on this one.

On one hand I don't think you or I have the right to tell a woman how she is going to live her life.

On the other hand I'm not sure that abortions are right.

I guess I lean more to choice because I don't know the woman and I don't know why she is doing what she is doing and I won't judge her till I do.

A question to all you pro-life people. This is not meant as a flame or anything but how many of you have adopted kids? How many of you are vegitarians? Isn't killing cows and pigs and stuff still killing?

[blur]

This is truly great news. I for one am sick and tired of watching fetuses protesting on the six o'clock news.

[Fatty]

I know both sides here are all in favor of conspiracies, but I support this bill fully and would love to see free abortions on demand.

Now figure my angle there!  

[Krusher]

What bothers me is the phrase

"a womans right to choose"

I find it intersting that a man has no say so in this process , but if the woman "chooses" to have the child the man is required to pay child support.

[Eagler]

 

Originally posted by Fatty:
I know both sides here are all in favor of conspiracies, but I support this bill fully and would love to see free abortions on demand.

Now figure my angle there!  

about 45 degrees, the angle that gets most of us into trouble and is at the root of this problem  

good one blur

Eagler

[funked]

Cool next time I get angry I'll just murder somebody and tell the judge it was "my right to choose".

[Ripsnort]

Hehe, sucker born every day, eh Sandman?  I see those silly "Left Scare Tactics" worked on you!  

[Sandman_SBM]

Yeah... good idea, Funked. Do that.

Rip, I support a women's right to choose. Some people believe that abortions are bad. Others do not. Pro-choice legislature allows you to practice your belief without imposing it on others. An abortion is a "big deal". I believe it's not a decision to be taken lightly, but I also believe that no one has the right to make that decision for you.

Are the protect choice posters a scare tactic? Sure, no argument there. They are certainly illustrating the extreme.

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[SOB]

Pro-lifers want to force their views into other peoples lives.  There's no ifs ands or buts about it.  If you are pro-life you belive that your views are more important than anyone else's and that the other guy/gal shouldn't have the right to choose what's best for them and their own life.

Pro-choicers run the gamut from idiots to non-idiots just like anything else.  But at the base of it, they stand for the rights of people to live their own lives.


SOB
...Doesn't belive in abortion but is strongly pro-choice.

[Eagler]

 

Originally posted by SOB:
Pro-lifers want to force their views into other peoples lives.  There's no ifs ands or buts about it.  If you are pro-life you belive that your views are more important than anyone else's and that the other guy/gal shouldn't have the right to choose what's best for them and their own life.

Pro-choicers run the gamut from idiots to non-idiots just like anything else.  But at the base of it, they stand for the rights of people to live their own lives.


SOB
...Doesn't belive in abortion but is strongly pro-choice.

not pressing my opinion/view on anyone as I realize most ppl are just too stupid to comprehend right from wrong. I feel abortion is murder 98% of the time as it is used as a method of birth control.

here's a tame site, there are many more gruesome on the net if you dare: http://www.abortioninfo.net/facts/pba.html

And drop the "she was raped and deserves an abortion" line as this % of annual abortions is so low as not to be a factor either way. The majority of abortions are performed on "women" 17 to 28 years old and is done as an after the fact birth control. Self control on her part would have prevented the situation in the first place. Shame we are promoting a generation of sluts.

Eagler

[narsus]

well I am pro-life mostly, I do believe that if the mothers life is at risk, or rape/incest abortions should be allowed.

If you not willing to take responsibility for a child you should not be having sex. End of story.

narsus

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[Sandman_SBM]

 

Originally posted by Eagler:
Self control on her part would have prevented the situation in the first place. Shame we are promoting a generation of sluts.

Okay... I get it now... a woman that has unprotected sex is a slut...

right...

The reference to partial-birth abortions is every bit as extreme as the pro-choice posters I posted earlier. Women do not carry healthy pregnancies for seven or eight months and then abort on a whim. On those rare occasions when women have third-trimester abortions, they do so because their fetuses have severe or fatal anomalies or because the pregnancy endangers their lives or health. Long-standing, unchallenged statutes in 40 states and the District of Columbia prohibit elective abortions by any method after fetal viability.


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[Eagler]

 

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM:
Okay... I get it now... a woman that has unprotected sex is a slut...

right...

usually and ignorant too ... my last post in this thread.
thank you

Eagler

[Sturm]

ok so you are calling my wife a slut?  Those are fightin words buddy.  At any rate who are you to judge or decide what another person does with their body?  

I will petition a bill that states we are only allowed to piss and toejam at work once a day.  that way we can get more work out of you and make sure you do not eat or drink before showing up.  Yes productivity might be down but the time saved from bathroom breaks will make it so we pull ahead.  

Eagler has the little elf been making cookies up stairs again?  My bad thats Keebler, at any rate keep hugging trees sometimes a situation rears its ugly head and people like you who haven't a clue as to what could possibly lie ahead.  Selfishness is one thing, if people go out and get knocked up 10 times so be it that is there fault.  Will I not sleep well at night?  Has this interferred with my life in someway?

Ever notice the people who are Pro life are the ones you wouldn't want to sleep with anyway!