Then show the post were the P-38 drivers were complaining about the P-38 being a "pig".
You obviously don't seem to remember some of the threads in General Discussions that you yourself participated in, before I posted about it, do you? (and no, I'm not mentioning Raptor's post) Or maybe it's just that you just don't consider anyone else as "P-38 pilots" who has a say in these matters, other than you yourself.
Are you saying this has shown up with other birds as well? As in anyone in a low and slow turn fight will now not be able to flap it at all? Combat flaps shouldn't make a turn worse.
Again, I've not noticed it in the 38G outside of the take off bit, but clearly folks are feeling it different in the 38.
Guppy,
Pyro specifically mentions that the change in the FM is a global issue, not individual plane tweaking. Therefore, technically, this tendency is manifesting itself with all planes - albeit at varying degrees. That being said, I do feel a certain degree of change with all planes - even the 109s or 190s which people generally agree in the fact that the change was for the better. If the change is indeed about the amount of drag increased with high-level of flap deployment as some people deduce, then logically, the planes with heavier weight would indeed be feeling more hits than the lighter and more nimble ones.
Another tendency I do notice is that the first notch of flaps deployed as soon as the plane's indicated air speed comes down to permitted levels, lifts the pitch of the plane much more higher than it used to in previous versions. If what I'm experiencing is not just placebo, then that would mean the initial gain in lift with the first notch(combat position) is higher than it used to be. The efficiency of flaps in combat position, therefore, is actually higher than it used to be. However, the detrimental effect to airspeed, as flap positions are steadily lowered, seem to be what's taking a real hit.
Now, a certain mister
"I'm the only 38 pilot around" might dismiss what I'm saying, since to him I obviously am not qualified to come up with any kind of opinions on
"his plane"...
...but as I understand many P-38 pilots in the game rely on not only the first 'combat position' of flaps but also the higher stages of deployment. A typical way of things would be a P-38, when it grabs hold of the rear-end of a target plane, would try and turn with it. As the turn tightens he would deploy the first notch. The problem they now face is that when the first notch is obviously not enough - should they not hesitate to progressively increase the level of deployment until landing positions are reached, like they once were able to do in the previous versions?
Like you said, 'combat flaps' should not make a plane turn worse. But what happens if you go over the combat position and pull it down to the max? Would a 17,000lbs plane be able to overcome the amount of drag created by full deployemnt of landing flaps for the entirety of the combat turn? Perhaps, being able to outurn planes weighing in at 7,500lbs with a 17,000lbs plane, at 110mph with full flaps out, was wrong.
At least I always did think so.
