Author Topic: Boeing… Boeing… Gone? (Read 1366 times)

Fishu · « **Reply #45 on:** July 17, 2004, 09:24:10 PM »

Keep in mind that 7E7 and A380 are in a whole different class.
B747/B777 and A330/A340/A380 are more on the same lines.
7E7 is more like replacement for B737 or competitor for A32x

I'd be more interested to know with what Airbus will replace its 32x-series.
Those are already getting little oldish.. or then I just see too many Airbus 32x's around EFHK

Ripsnort · « **Reply #46 on:** July 17, 2004, 09:31:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Ive heard things you wouldnt even imagine possible. Like rip I cant say anything specific but suffice it to say Boeing has broken the mold that airbus stole from us twenty years ago and is starting a whole new game and making the rules. You will not be disappointed. The 7E7 and its variants are the future of commercial air travel. the a380, although very much a boeing inspired airplane, is really just old news in a new package.

Very inspiring speaker, wasn't he? (If you had the same guy speak at your group...)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #47 on:** July 17, 2004, 09:32:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Fishu

7E7 is more like replacement for B737 or competitor for A32x

ehhh, no.

not unless you can pack 289 people on a 737

demaw1 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 17, 2004, 09:49:11 PM »

Will airbus survive

No worries sparks airbus will always survive as it is subsidize by europe

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #49 on:** July 17, 2004, 10:19:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
I think that composite technology is mature, but for a structure as large as a wing, there's always room for more learning. It's not practical to prevent the 7E7 from rolling out because of this concern, but I hope that Boeing will be actively involved in examining the first generation of planes for any possible 'fatigue' or stress related problems.

I have a superlight weight carbon fly rod that must be about 15 years old. I've sat on it, fell on it, and bent it back on itself when I caught fish too big for the tackle. That and my carbon shafted Callaway driver as well as the Navy's Super Hornets and carbon composite's use in business jets and homebuilt aircraft give me some confidence as to the maturity of the technology.

Staga · « **Reply #50 on:** July 17, 2004, 11:26:52 PM »

About "Fly by Wire": I can't be sure but IIRC Avro Arrow was first aircraft using that system.

Not sure how good this link is but it's something: http://www.spitcrazy.com/avroarrowstory1.htm

Fishu · « **Reply #51 on:** July 18, 2004, 09:46:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
ehhh, no. not unless you can pack 289 people on a 737

Well.. okey, 757

Ripsnort · « **Reply #52 on:** July 18, 2004, 09:54:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Well.. okey, 757

767, particularly the -300 model. (260 passengers) however its really a niche aircraft. The 7E7 is a twin isle aircraft, where the 757 and 737 are single isle.

Responding to the preference of airlines worldwide, the 7E7 will be a super-efficient commercial airplane that applies the enabling technologies developed during the feasibility study for the Sonic Cruiser. The airplane will carry 200 to 250 passengers (But can be configured to up to 289) and fly 7,800 to 8,300 nmi, this translates into dramatic savings in fuel use and operating costs. The performance will come from improvements in engine technology, aerodynamics, materials and systems. It will be the most advanced and efficient commercial airplane in its class and will set new standards for environmental performance and passenger comfort. Its my opinion that all Boeing aircraft will one day be composite and derivitives of this new 7E7 technology.

J318 · « **Reply #53 on:** July 18, 2004, 10:31:31 AM »

Concorde was better than the lot!

Dago · « **Reply #54 on:** July 18, 2004, 11:41:30 AM »

Does anybody else reccgnize this as just another one of beetles Europe good USA bad threads? Here he is trying to show how great and successfull a subsidized Euro aircraft manufacturer is, and how the predominant American manufacturer is going down hill.

It follows his previous pattern of spreading negativity about the USA in a sometimes discreet, sometimes not manner.

The fact that he doesn't know squat about the industry, about how aircraft are built and what the realities of the situation are are irrelevant to him.

dago

Thrawn · « **Reply #55 on:** July 18, 2004, 01:07:12 PM »

The Avro Arrow was the first FBW aircraft. Not surprising that the Luner Lander had it as well, seeing as the designer of the Lunar Lander was an engineer on the Arrow.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #56 on:** March 29, 2006, 11:54:48 AM »

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Beet1e said: Will Airbus buy up Boeing? Well… not yet. Besides, the spectacle of Ripsnort having to sell his guns so he can relocate to France to live and work is beyond my powers of imagination!

Though this post is nearly two years old, I felt compelled to reply to Beet now that a couple of years have past.

Boeing has pulled all of its IT test division out of Paris as of this year and we've relocated it back into the U.S. Alot of it had to do with the expense of operating out of France, and the turmoil going on over there.

Regarding Boeing for sale...Febuary of 2003 Boeing stock dipped to $26.85 a share. At $30 a share I invested heavily into this bluechip stock. Today, it sits at $79.07 at the time of this posting. It will split this year sometime. I don't think Boeing will be selling anytime soon.