Author Topic: Bush Was Right (Read 1748 times)

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #15 on:** April 03, 2006, 07:18:26 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
Yeah, really. We could have elected some moron that would have attempted to do something stupid like try to turn US port security over to a middle eastern nation or raise the national debt to $30,000 per man, woman and child.

I've been hearing complaints about the national debt for years and years and through a bunch of presidents from both parties now.

Curious.
How exactly has the national debt effected you?

For all the complaining Ive heard from both sides of the isle.
I've yet to hear one person explain how it has effected them personally. Cept to complain about it.

And before anyone says it. The projected surplus near the end of the Clinton Administration was only that. A projected surplus. It didnt bring the national debt down to zero. Primarily because they wanted to spend it on things other then the debt.

Also "projected" was a surplus of 150 Billion over the next 5 years.
But the reality is it didnt exactly happen that way.
Recessions have a way of screwing things up

As usual whenever Clinton, or really any other politician was involved. What you see isnt always what you get.

But please. Someone explain to me how the national Debt has personally effected their lives?

lazs2 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 03, 2006, 07:30:27 AM »

If he would shrink the government and cut taxes some more then he would be one of the greatest presidents of modern times... course... how hard would that be?

lazs

Curval · « **Reply #17 on:** April 03, 2006, 07:43:36 AM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
Blame everything on Bush...right, lets just forget the Congress the Congress that votes all of the legislation into law...

Unless its Presidential Executive Order, nothing is a single man's decision

Congress authorised illegal phone tapping? I don't think so...that was GWB stepping all over your constitutional rights.

cav58d · « **Reply #18 on:** April 03, 2006, 08:45:25 AM »

According to the white house the wire taping approval was not an EO. It is the farthest thing from stepping on my Constitutional Rights! It is my commander and chief living up to his responsibility to protect Americans from any enemy threat, domestic or abroad.

There was 30 some odd instances of this un-warranted wire tapping, all done from telephone calls from high risk area's INTO the United States. I expect my goverment and ALL of its intelligence gathering agencies to be doing this on a daily basis to prevent another decleration of war on my home soil.

You American liberals are so worked up over this that you fail to realize all the NSA is doing is protecting you. I think it is a slap in the face and an insult to all of the highly trained intel officers at all of our government agencies to blame them on spying on your personal life for personal reasons. These men and women in charge of intercepting phone calls, and interpeting malicous rhetoric and data are the most highly trained professionals in the field. Yes, they have an agenda. To intercept intelligence to thrwart another attack on the homeland. Anything else is rubbish. We live in a post 9-11 America. The world has changed. Although these intelligence officers may not be facing actual combat, they still are on the front lines in fighting the war on terrorism. How dare you throw out such degrading, trivial accusations. They dont care about your weekend plans. They dont care about whats for diner. They have been trained to sipher through these calls and interpret what is dangerous rhetoric, and what is benign chat. Not only would the heads of the agencys crack down on this if there ever was a case of this, but im confident none of the officers would have such low morals, and risk jeopordizing the United States because they got bored and wasted time listening to idle chatter.

T0J0 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 03, 2006, 08:51:10 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval
Congress authorised illegal phone tapping? I don't think so...that was GWB stepping all over your constitutional rights.

Monitoring overseas phones calls from an Arab country is not stepping on my constitutional rights, I prefer that incoming overseas phonecalls from known terrorist sponsoring countries be listened to, but its nice that your so concerned about my rights being from britain and all..

TJ

Curval · « **Reply #20 on:** April 03, 2006, 08:55:53 AM »

lol

I'm not from Britain.

Whatever...you guys just keep living in your dream world.

cav58d · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2006, 08:56:55 AM »

yea how considerate curval...I did not realize you were from Britain...Since you obviously dont understand how us Americans feel, especially us North Easterners about our protection and security, let me put it in terms you may be more familiar with...

I'll take the modern day Winston Churchill that we elected to office of a neville chamberlain ANYDAY!

Eagler · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2006, 08:59:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval
Congress authorised illegal phone tapping? I don't think so...that was GWB stepping all over your constitutional rights.

I haven't called any overseas terrorists lately so I do not have an issue with the "illegal" <-me don't think it is, tapping

Curval · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2006, 09:01:27 AM »

You seem to have a hard time reading. I'm not from Britain. I have British citizenship but do not live there.

Don't get all worked up. You posted a Bush Was Right song and expect everyone to jump in and have a big circle jerk? Get real.

Curval · « **Reply #24 on:** April 03, 2006, 09:06:20 AM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
According to the white house the wire taping approval was not an EO. It is the farthest thing from stepping on my Constitutional Rights! It is my commander and chief living up to his responsibility to protect Americans from any enemy threat, domestic or abroad.

So, it wasn't an EO and wasn't approved by Congress. Yet your qoute from earlier was:

"Unless its Presidential Executive Order, nothing is a single man's decision"

So, if it wasn't an EO, wasn't approved by Congress, it must have been as single man's decision.

You justify it by saying it is your Supreme Commander protecting you. LOL!

Great stuff.

T0J0 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 03, 2006, 10:33:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval
lol

I'm not from Britain.

Whatever...you guys just keep living in your dream world.

Yeah I imagined that whole day and wish it were a dream...

rpm · « **Reply #26 on:** April 03, 2006, 11:10:19 AM »

Curval, you see most of the guys geographic skills match their political savvy.

Yeager · « **Reply #27 on:** April 03, 2006, 11:13:06 AM »

Islam is your friend.

Wasn't there a tube in London recently......

z0rch · « **Reply #28 on:** April 03, 2006, 12:04:40 PM »

cav58d wrote:
I love how the masses of men who would be brain fried if they ever had to change a flat tire, or better yet read something beyond a newspaper/magazine, can call a Ivy League Grad, Former Officer/Fighter Pilot and present day President of the US an idiot...Maybe President Bush isn't the best speaker, and i'll admit, maybe he has been given more opportunity than the average person...But with his given opportunity you can only take the free ride so far...You can walk a man to the door but he is the one to walk through it...

Yeah, the ignorant masses can't even construct a coherent sentence.

Bush was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. And with any luck he'll get tagged out for trying to steal home.

It's amusing how the dimwitted look at the administration's complete and utter failures, before 9/11 and after, as a good thing.

I guess America will be perfect when gas is $10/gal, bin Laden rules the caliphate, and we're all getting cavity searched at the mall entrances.

john9001 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 03, 2006, 12:16:03 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm
Yeah, really. We could have elected some moron that would have attempted to do something stupid like try to turn US port security over to a middle eastern nation or raise the national debt to $30,000 per man, woman and child.

referee calls foul, port security is and will be by the US coast guard and US customs.