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Offline VOR

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« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2006, 12:21:15 PM »
Tsk tsk, John. Hatemongering is not an occasion to confuse the issue with the facts. You'll get called a fascist.

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« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2006, 12:23:05 PM »
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Congress authorised illegal phone tapping?  I don't think so...that was GWB stepping all over your constitutional rights.


I think this will be an intersting SC case.
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Senator Feinstein: Now I want to clear something up. Judge Kornblum spoke about Congress's power to pass laws to allow the President to carry out domestic electronic surveillance, and we know that FISA is the exclusive means of so doing. Is such a law, that provides both the authority and the rules for carrying out that authority, are those rules then binding on the President?

Judge Kornblum: No President has ever agreed to that. ***

Senator Feinstein: What do you think as a Judge?

Judge Kornblum: I think--as a Magistrate Judge, not a District Judge, that a President would be remiss in exercising his Constitutional authority to say that, "I surrender all of my power to a statute," and, frankly, I doubt that Congress, in a statute, can take away the President's authority, not his inherent authority, but his necessary and proper authority.

Senator Feinstein: I would like to go down the line if I could. *** Judge Baker?

Judge Baker: No, I do not believe that a President would say that.

Senator Feinstein: No. I am talking about FISA, and is a President bound by the rules and regulations of FISA?

Judge Baker: If it is held constitutional and it is passed, I suppose, just like everyone else, he is under the law too. ***

Senator Feinstein: Judge?

Judge Stafford: Everyone is bound by the law, but I do not believe, with all due respect, that even an act of Congress can limit the President's power under the Necessary and Proper Clause under the Constitution. ***[B/]

Chairman Specter: I think the thrust of what you are saying is the President is bound by statute like everyone else unless it impinges on his constitutional authority, and a statute cannot take away the President's constitutional authority. Anybody disagree with that?
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« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2006, 12:40:45 PM »
z0rch it was sooo much better having the fat pantload. Who, let terrorist commit acts of war on this country.







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« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2006, 12:47:55 PM »
Actually a very catchy song...
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« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2006, 01:12:45 PM »
Zorch...Maybe you can still get on the ticket for the upcoming Congressional elections?  Please tell us your solutions, because all I see you do is point out liberal talking points without a a strategy to fix this so called problem.

You wanna talk about accomplishments?  The economy is consistently on the rise.  Unemployment has been at decade low's, the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, the Patriotic Act, the over throw of the genocidal jihadist taliban, whos state prior to 9/11 was the closest thing to your caliph, the over throw of sadaam, another genocidal dictator who used WMD's on his own people.  How about the freedom, and the basic human rights we have granted to tens of millions?  My favorite, the "justice" we have brought to thousands of men and women who would love nothing more than to murder you by any means possible because of the country you were born into.  Is that enough accomplishments or shall we keep going?

You also seem to have a problem with OPEC.  Is it President Bush's fault that the price to refine, market and deliver crude is hiked up so much by our Middle Eastern friends?  if so why?  
Your so concerned about gas prices?  Besides argue over the internet, do you ever make an attempt to do something about it?  Ever contact your Congressmen?  Contribute to the research and developement of alternative fuels??
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« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2006, 01:44:18 PM »
cav58d wrote:
You wanna talk about accomplishments? The economy is consistently on the rise.
Based on what criteria? I don't see an economic boom. I see rising interest rates, increased debt and small businesses closing. Within a mile of my home, there are over a dozen empty stores where there were thriving businesses 5 years ago. Show some numbers to back up your claim.

Unemployment has been at decade low's
Bzzzt, wrong. Complete bu*****. Again, show some numbers. You do make a good case for the Illiterati Conspiracy though.

the over throw of sadaam, another genocidal dictator who used WMD's on his own people.
While the Reagan/Bush administration continued to sell him weapons, and Rumsfeld visited to kiss his oily ass.

How about the freedom, and the basic human rights we have granted to tens of millions?
How about the freedom and basic human rights Americans are losing in the process?

You also seem to have a problem with OPEC. Is it President Bush's fault that the price to refine, market and deliver crude is hiked up so much by our Middle Eastern friends?

http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/2006-04-03-fortune-500_x.htm

NEW YORK — Skyrocketing energy prices propelled ExxonMobil (XOM) to the top of the 2006 Fortune 500 list

Oh, and [cough] Enron [/cough].

Besides argue over the internet, do you ever make an attempt to do something about it?
Yep, I sure have.

Ever contact your Congressmen?
Nope, he's a RepubliCon. I contacted my Senator. He not only called me back, he took action.

Contribute to the research and developement of alternative fuels?
Does eating Mexican food count?

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« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2006, 02:03:37 PM »
and you voted for who in 00 & 04?

do you think either one of them would/could have done better?

if so, how?

you are just sounding like another mad lib bush hater - please continue

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« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2006, 02:27:27 PM »
Eagler wrote:
and you voted for who in 00 & 04?
There was nobody to vote for, so I voted against Bush.

do you think either one of them would/could have done better?
I don't think anyone short of Stalin could do worse.

if so, how?
Oh, like actually doing something to prevent 9/11 for a start.

you are just sounding like another mad lib bush hater - please continue
Bush hater? You bet. Liberal, not really. Continue? Count on it.

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« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2006, 02:36:05 PM »
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if so, how?
Oh, like actually doing something to prevent 9/11 for a start.

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 Once again Like the fat pantload did anything.
Multiple attacks and he did SQUAT.
If he had any sack and did something 9/11 most likely could have been avoided.
But since he hated the military, and didn't want to do anything that might hurt his public opinion. He sat on his hands and left a friggin mess for other people to clean up.
 

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« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2006, 02:36:52 PM »
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  Both the number of unemployed persons, 7.2 million, and the unemployment
rate, 4.8 percent, were little changed in February.  A year earlier, the num-
ber of unemployed was 8.0 million, and the jobless rate was 5.4 percent.


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« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2006, 02:52:17 PM »
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Yeah, really. We could have elected some moron that would have attempted to do something stupid like try to turn US port security over to a middle eastern nation...


Good thing W never advocated that.  The Dubai deal was not going to turn over security.
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« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2006, 09:41:28 PM »
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my goodness, it is really gonna PO alot of you when history labels GWB jr one of the greatest POTUS ever :)


the end of history.

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« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2006, 11:01:58 PM »
Yawn.

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« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2006, 12:16:12 AM »
sometimes I feel like a leper but I just like old George........even though Im tired of him politicaly and bascially unimpressed with him overall as a president.  I just like the guy  :cry
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« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2006, 08:10:28 AM »
the best thing about Bush is that he doesn't rule by approval rating..

I would have thought that we all had enough of that kind of president allready.

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