Author Topic: Bush Was Right (Read 1741 times)

Curval · « **Reply #60 on:** April 04, 2006, 09:28:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
Curval, quit drinking the cool-aid. It will rot your brain.

So, tell me did these others guys break the law also?

B. Clinton: Did exactly the same thing. (Oh, and I guess killing 48 American Citizens was entirely LEGAL. where were the protests regarding these dead Americans. Never saw any marches for their benefit. I guess because they were Christians with guns it was OK.)

GHW Bush, R. Reagon, J. Carter: All used this procedure when they saw fit to use it.

What the media/leftist propagandists want you to believe is that this is some NEW kind of EVIL surveillance when in fact it is nothing more than any other president has done in the past.

Basically your whole argument is that if someone else has done it, it is okay.

Two wrongs make a right.

Gotcha.

z0rch · « **Reply #61 on:** April 04, 2006, 09:53:58 PM »

1. in 1978, the misery index (inflation + unemployment) was 12.60 to 15.02% Today its 8.4% Good times, 1978....
My employment was 100%. I was single. AIDS was unheard of. It was the 70s.. Ahh, the summer of '78 wasn't very miserable for me.

2. You still mad about Benjamin Harrison too?
Since you brought him up:
Benjamin Harrison

After beating John Sherman for the Republican presidential nomination, Harrison was elected President of the United States in 1888. In the Presidential election, Harrison received 100,000 fewer popular votes than incumbent President Grover Cleveland, but carried the Electoral College 233 to 168. Although Harrison had made no political bargains, his supporters had given innumerable pledges upon his behalf. When Boss Matthew Quay of Pennsylvania heard that Harrison ascribed his narrow victory to Providence, Quay exclaimed that Harrison would never know "how close a number of men were compelled to approach...the penitentiary to make him President."

3. Just because somebody robs a bank doesn't mean he didn't signal when changing lanes. Much of what John Dillinger did was not illegal.
Good point.
In that spirit, we could claim "Much of what Bush says is not untrue."
We may have found his legacy.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #62 on:** April 04, 2006, 11:55:34 PM »

did you have a point with that last post?

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #63 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:24:28 AM »

Caustic little cuss aint he?

LMAO

MrCoffee · « **Reply #64 on:** April 05, 2006, 02:13:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval
Basically your whole argument is that if someone else has done it, it is okay.

Two wrongs make a right.

Gotcha.

actually two wrong make it wrong right?

lazs2 · « **Reply #65 on:** April 05, 2006, 07:55:57 AM »

I really can't believe that anyone is saying that 1978 was the good times....

nothing they say after that is worth taking seriously.

lazs

Eagler · « **Reply #66 on:** April 05, 2006, 08:51:11 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I really can't believe that anyone is saying that 1978 was the good times....

nothing they say after that is worth taking seriously.

lazs

lol

yep gas prices jumpin almost 100% is a good thing

lol

T0J0 · « **Reply #67 on:** April 05, 2006, 09:02:03 AM »

IN 78 the unemployment rate was only 7% and the fed rate was only 9% so wasnt the worst year of that decade.

Curval · « **Reply #68 on:** April 05, 2006, 09:37:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
lol

yep gas prices jumpin almost 100% is a good thing

lol

Having noted your sarcasm about rising gas prices:

If gas prices go up we are living in really bad times apparently.

In September 2003 oil was about $25 per barel.

The NYMEX quote for April 4, 2006 was $66.23 per barrel.

That is quite a bit more than a 100% increase.

Whatcha 'lol'ing at?

Eagler · « **Reply #69 on:** April 05, 2006, 10:40:44 AM »

that's oil
I do not think a gallon of gas has increased by the same percentage ...

"summer 2003 - national average of $1.51 a gallon"

... yet

and I am "loling" at z0rch and his rants..

Curval · « **Reply #70 on:** April 05, 2006, 10:54:31 AM »

Average "gas" price in the US

This link says it is $2.58 currently.

Against your quote of $1.51 in September 2003 that makes it a 100% increase.

You say you are loling at zorch, but your lols appear to be related to gas prices rising 100%.

Eagler · « **Reply #71 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:14:03 PM »

I know I ain't a math wizard but that doesn't look like a 100% increase to me

1.07 != 1.51

z0rch · « **Reply #72 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:38:10 PM »

lazs2 wrote:
I really can't believe that anyone is saying that 1978 was the good times....
nothing they say after that is worth taking seriously.

All depends on your perspective. Was it a Bush style economy, where more wealth is concentrated in the richest 1%? Nope.

It was a good time socially. The country was putting the abominations of Nixon and Viet Nam behind us. Draft protesters were granted amnesty. Constitutional rights were being up-help by the higher courts. Pigs no longer had jack boots and blank checks.

The reasons inflation was high were twofold. Mainly, as always, the Bushies were jacking up gas prices. But wages were keeping pace. Regular middle class people were earning more. Increased wages contribute to inflation too. Are you against earning more?

Of course, this probably doesn't suit those who think freedom is the right to "shut the f-- up and do as you're told." I can understand why some of the whining "please throw away my rights to protect me from the boogeyman" crowd hated it.

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #73 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:40:32 PM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
According to the white house the wire taping approval was not an EO. It is the farthest thing from stepping on my Constitutional Rights! It is my commander and chief living up to his responsibility to protect Americans from any enemy threat, domestic or abroad.

There was 30 some odd instances of this un-warranted wire tapping, all done from telephone calls from high risk area's INTO the United States. I expect my goverment and ALL of its intelligence gathering agencies to be doing this on a daily basis to prevent another decleration of war on my home soil.

You American liberals are so worked up over this that you fail to realize all the NSA is doing is protecting you. I think it is a slap in the face and an insult to all of the highly trained intel officers at all of our government agencies to blame them on spying on your personal life for personal reasons. These men and women in charge of intercepting phone calls, and interpeting malicous rhetoric and data are the most highly trained professionals in the field. Yes, they have an agenda. To intercept intelligence to thrwart another attack on the homeland. Anything else is rubbish. We live in a post 9-11 America. The world has changed. Although these intelligence officers may not be facing actual combat, they still are on the front lines in fighting the war on terrorism. How dare you throw out such degrading, trivial accusations. They dont care about your weekend plans. They dont care about whats for diner. They have been trained to sipher through these calls and interpret what is dangerous rhetoric, and what is benign chat. Not only would the heads of the agencys crack down on this if there ever was a case of this, but im confident none of the officers would have such low morals, and risk jeopordizing the United States because they got bored and wasted time listening to idle chatter.

So...which AM station do you listen to most?

Curval · « **Reply #74 on:** April 05, 2006, 01:12:50 PM »

"Average retail gasoline prices peaked at $3.07 a gallon last September."

1.51 * 2 = $3.02

In my rush to post I forgot to use the quote from the article.

Fact is though that is an average for a huge country. In many cases it is much higher, just depends on where you live. It was obviously lower in some.