Author Topic: ditching on own base (Read 1206 times)

ujustdied · « **on:** April 03, 2006, 01:55:36 AM »

ok so i go to land 9 kills in a niki forget that 1 of gear are missing and plane veers off runway on to the field. ok so im on my own base go to tower out and it says i get a ditch. wtf im on my own base so why would i get a ditch.
if there is any way could you please change this so that if you land on you own base you get your kills.

CatFish6

MadSquirrel · « **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2006, 03:48:55 AM »

You’re not the only one that thinks this sucks. You can make a great landing but if one lousy wheel is off the pavement, you get a ditch. And it is on your own base 10 feet from the lousy hanger and you get a ditch. It's absolutely stupid.
However, you can slam the plane onto the runway, ripping both wings off, collapsing the landing gear and destroying the engine, but be on pavement and get a successful landing.

Play it safe and fly out into the middle of no where and land 100K from anything and get a successful landing too. Only ones to know are you, the trees and a few sheep. Gee, that makes sense.

Same old argument, same old "Ain't going to change now matter how stupid it is" replies.

In.

LTARsqrl <>

Trikky · « **Reply #2 on:** April 03, 2006, 04:21:46 AM »

Never land with wheels down unless you need to re-arm to avoid this unpleasantness, also a good way to tower out before the arsewipe in the 190 dives through all of your chums from 15k to vulch you landing.

IIRC HT has said you’ve got to draw a line somewhere to distinguish a safe landing. If he extends it to cover the airstrip the next post will be how one wingtip was over the strip boundary and how ridiculous that is and shouldn’t we all get safe landings within 5 sectors of a green base due to the large numbers of tractors in WWII.

gatt · « **Reply #3 on:** April 03, 2006, 05:42:39 AM »

Uhm, actually one thing is to draw a line between the paved rwy and the internal airfield and another thing is to draw a line between the field boundaries and the country outside of it. I guess the second solution is much easier to implement, more accurate and acceptable by almost all players. Moreover (another stinking dead horse), many WW2 airfields had no paved rwys at all and fighters took off and landed in the direction they wanted to.

For some players a ditch is different from a succesful landing no matter what the "take off, put yourself in the closest low furball, kill as many as you can, (more likely) get shoot down soon and re-up" party can say.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 03, 2006, 06:09:59 AM »

Turn your vid settings down. that way you will hit a tree before you get to the runway. Problem solved. Landing is over rated.

Morpheus · « **Reply #5 on:** April 03, 2006, 08:27:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
Turn your vid settings down. that way you will hit a tree before you get to the runway. Problem solved. Landing is over rated.

lmao

Brenjen · « **Reply #6 on:** April 03, 2006, 08:29:22 AM »

That's a good one.
I hate getting ditches on re-supply if any enemy is anywhere close it may even give them a kill...on your own base...on concrete. This doesn't always happen, seems to happen more at strats...any clue if it's a glitch or just the way it is & will be?

gatt · « **Reply #7 on:** April 03, 2006, 08:49:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
.... Landing is over rated.

Sure, landing is over-rated for diving level bombers, lawndarter field porkers, bomber pilots ejecting after dropping ordnance, anti CV kamikazes. So, lets ask HTC to allow 5K spawn points for a/c and to take off rwys from maps. TOD is inbound, lets turn the MA definitely in a BF1942ish arena ... we are actually goin in that direction.

cav58d · « **Reply #8 on:** April 03, 2006, 09:07:00 AM »

I understand why HTC has the ditch model as it is...if I interpret it right its purpose is more so that friendlys can get an easy landing wherever they want at an airfield underattack, and less of the "skill and challenged involved in landing on the pavement". In my perfect world the current ditch system should stay the way it is WHEN and ONLY WHEN the base is flashing and there is an enemy in range. Otherwise when the field is calm and there is no ensuing or inbound attack the aircraft, or vehicle should be able to land at any spot within the fields boundries no problem.
If this is not possible I have also come out with some suggestions in the "wishlist" that addresses this problem. First suggestion is create a tow vehicle, or simply a tow bar that can attach to a jeep/m3 or m8 so that a squaddie or friendly could tow the "ditched" plane onto the pavement for a sucessful landing. In my opinion I dont think it has to go as far as having a squaddie or friendly doing it. If there was a way to exit your airplane on the ground without it magically disappearing, you personally could hold "W" down and walk to the hanger and pick to tow up yourself and pull your aircraft back.

Secondly and possibly more practical. Aircraft supplies. If a 30ton tiger can get flipped upside down, tracks shot out, guns destroyed all while in the surrounding area of 30,40,100! tanks if its in tank town, and get vehicle supplies and magically be flipped upright and have all damage repaired instantly, then surely we should have the same ability for airplanes with airplane supplies? no? I mean this is a flight simulator, and why have GV's gotten priority over the aircraft in this category, that the community agrees to be extremely important.

thoughts?

cavzilla

Jackal1 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 03, 2006, 09:16:11 AM »

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Originally posted by gatt
Sure, landing is over-rated for diving level bombers, lawndarter field porkers, bomber pilots ejecting after dropping ordnance, anti CV kamikazes. So, lets ask HTC to allow 5K spawn points for a/c and to take off rwys from maps. TOD is inbound, lets turn the MA definitely in a BF1942ish arena ... we are actually goin in that direction.

My my.......................Ain`t you got your panties in a wad. lmao

gatt · « **Reply #10 on:** April 03, 2006, 09:49:12 AM »

Oh boy, judging from your results you sure seem a specialist of:
- take off, pork and get killed by ack or cappers,
- take off, kill, dont worry about SA and get killed in a couple of secs.
Ehehe ....

eagl · « **Reply #11 on:** April 03, 2006, 10:08:10 AM »

So, should this be a ditch, a landing, or a death?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/03/c5.crash/index.html

They're only about 2000 ft short of the runway and according to CNN, all aboard survived with some injuries...

mojo55 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 03, 2006, 10:32:10 AM »

What does 'Davy Crockett and the Alamo' have to do with this poor lads wheel falling off ?

MajWoody · « **Reply #13 on:** April 03, 2006, 11:18:25 AM »

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Originally posted by eagl
So, should this be a ditch, a landing, or a death?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/03/c5.crash/index.html

They're only about 2000 ft short of the runway and according to CNN, all aboard survived with some injuries...

That looks like a ditch to me.

Glad no one was killed.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 03, 2006, 11:31:49 AM »

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Originally posted by gatt
Oh boy, judging from your results you sure seem a specialist of:
- take off, pork and get killed by ack or cappers,
- take off, kill, dont worry about SA and get killed in a couple of secs.
Ehehe ....

Panties still in a wad?
Here`s the way I look at it at this point after being around for quite a while.
I do what I like to do and have fun at it. Usualy that is attack for denial. I could give a rat`s patunia about score/rank/spank or stank.

I do what I have fun at.
When it gets to the point that you come into a GAME and have to go to work and worry bout this , that and the other you really need to give it some serious thought.
I`ll nose dive one in if someone knocks on the door. Don`t matter to me.
Where I go is usualy a swarm of NME bogs and a majority the time I`m by myself because noone else will go in. Don`t matter to me. I`ll "in" on a rat and steal it`s cheese.

If you are getting all bent out of shape over score, etc. then I feel for you.