HITech, Please give us a new tank

[Wannab]

furball pooface i see both of your points and will agree it does need to be rounded between the countries involved
that being said i apologize for my rudeness but i couldnt see your point and though you were just being rude

WE need a tank yes pooface i know that some of us LOVE GV action just like you like flying i personally do both  and enjoy both but the gap created by the tiger is hard to overcome even with an experienced jock in the panzer

i like the panther idea the firefly would be cool but until Hitech says anything we are just spinning our wheels

Unless hitech is going to SURPRISE us

wannab:O

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by mentalguy
. Im all in for the Sherman & the M10.

I dont like crap, give me a tank.

MG

You state you don't like crap. You also state you want the Sherman.

The Sherman IS crap. If you had a Sherman it would be killed by one round. It would also have a difficult time killing a Panzer and the only way for it to kill a Tiger is to be behind it AND be very close.

[Furball]

m10 would be incredibly vunerable because of open turret

[E25280]

Originally posted by Lye-El
You state you don't like crap. You also state you want the Sherman.

The Sherman IS crap. If you had a Sherman it would be killed by one round. It would also have a difficult time killing a Panzer and the only way for it to kill a Tiger is to be behind it AND be very close.

IMHO, the Sherman was not crap.  It acquired its poor reputation because it couldn't stand up to Tigers or Panthers.  Big deal - neither could the T-34/76 -- yet that is the tank so many experts think was so incredibly good.  Why?  Because when introduced, it was going against Pzkw IIIs and early IVs.  It acquired a reputation as a good tank going against lesser ones.  Never mind they were destroyed by the bushell in 44 and 45 -- reputation was already established.

"Sherman would be killed by one round".  Unlike the Panzer?  The T-34? The Osti?  All die with one round.  IRL the armor protection of the Shermans was about equivelant to the PzkwIV.

A standard Sherman with the 75mm gun would have the one-hit power of the current T-34, but probably twice the rate of fire.  An M4A3E8 (I think is correct designation) would have a 76mm gun roughly equal to the PzkwIV.  A Sherman Firefly would have the Brit 17 pounder -- firing a sabot round, it was more powerful than the Tiger's 88.  An interesting variant would be the 105mm assault gun version of the Sherman with HEAT rounds.

So, lots of ways to introduce it, none of them "crap" or useless.

[nirvana]

Sherman got kills because they sent a pack of 4 in and 3 of them died while 1 went in to kill the enemy tank at very close range, and even then it wasn't a guaranteed kill for the Sherman.  Hook a flame thrower onto that puppy though...

[mentalguy]

T-95 Super heavy tank
Tigers worst nightmare
Here Kitty Kitty Kitty

[Brenjen]

The super heavy variants were available to germany too & were more fearsome than any other tank in the war & some of them even saw limited action toward the end ( I believe the freaky looking "Mouse" was left at the Brandenburg Gate to defend until it ran out of ammo. ). But let's keep it in the realm of possibility, I seriously doubt they are ever going to model the super heavy variants of russian or german tanks. Some of those later German monsters with the 128mm guns would have been a match for a few of todays MBT's!

 Here's a link you "super tank" guys might find interesting:
http://www.3ad.com/history/news/super.pershing.1.htm

 Enjoy!:aok

[mentalguy]

How bout the strum-tiger(spelling?)
that naval canon will even be able to take out a cv thats killing a base.

[Rino]

Originally posted by Furball
m10 would be incredibly vunerable because of open turret

     Yeah, I can see that open turret thing has really slowed down the Osty.

[Brenjen]

Maybe if we could throw grenades or molitov cocktails it would matter. But for the purposes of this game I don't think the open turret is much of a factor.

 Might make a difference in the amount of damage aircraft guns could do diving on one...I thought about that after the posting of the thought above.

[Furball]

Originally posted by Rino
Yeah, I can see that open turret thing has really slowed down the Osty.

ostwind has a 37mm cannon to fend aircraft off.  it is incredibly easy to kill an osty turret with an aircraft.

they have the M-10 in wwiionline, that suffers badly from air attack and infantry with grenades when it is out in the open.

[Rino]

Originally posted by Furball
ostwind has a 37mm cannon to fend aircraft off.  it is incredibly easy to kill an osty turret with an aircraft.

they have the M-10 in wwiionline, that suffers badly from air attack and infantry with grenades when it is out in the open.

     Tank Destroyers in the open should be easy prey, in fact the gameplay
we use for panzers now is ideally suited for the ambush tactics used by
TD units.  Of course we don't have infantry or grenades, but we do have
hordes of 1,000 lb carrying air units.

[KgB]

Originally posted by Furball
 Russians have only a single tank, despite being on the eastern front where mass tank on tank combat was very common  

You kidding right?
How come no one ever speaks about those?(we need those in game btw.)

Havy tanks "red army ww2"
T-35 | KV-1 | KV-2 | IS-2 | IS-3

Medium tanks
T-28 | T-34 | T-44

Self propelled guns
ZiS-30 | SU-5 | SU-76 | SU-85 | SU-100 | SU-122 | SU-152 | ISU-122 |
 ISU-152

Anti-aircraft guns
T-60Z | T-70Z | T-90

Armored cars
D-8 | D-12 | D-13 | FAI | BA-10 | BA-11 | BA-20 | BA-21 | BA-3 | BA-6 | BA-27 | BA-64 | BA-I | LB-62 |LB-23

[Brenjen]

Originally posted by KgB
You kidding right?
How come no one ever speaks about those?(we need those in game btw.)

Havy tanks "red army ww2"
T-35 | KV-1 | KV-2 | IS-2 | IS-3

Medium tanks
T-28 | T-34 | T-44

Self propelled guns
ZiS-30 | SU-5 | SU-76 | SU-85 | SU-100 | SU-122 | SU-152 | ISU-122 |
 ISU-152

Anti-aircraft guns
T-60Z | T-70Z | T-90

Armored cars
D-8 | D-12 | D-13 | FAI | BA-10 | BA-11 | BA-20 | BA-21 | BA-3 | BA-6 | BA-27 | BA-64 | BA-I | LB-62 |LB-23

 It might help if you clarified what you meant, Furball was obviously refering to the fact there is only one russian tank modeled in AHII; what are you talking about?

[Furball]

Originally posted by KgB
You kidding right?

no, i was trying to say - we need more russian tanks.

See, Brenjan got it.