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Offline mars01

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« Reply #60 on: April 11, 2006, 09:44:59 AM »
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The vast majority of failed missions fail not because of spies. But because , Poor planning (the most common reason) and poor execution. And sometimes just plain old poor luck.


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« Reply #61 on: April 11, 2006, 09:54:42 AM »
Was funny a couple of nights ago -

While we (Bish) held P23 a big darbar suddenly appeared in grid 6.14.
So we upped a mission against it, it was obvious it was coming to P23 Rooks had been after it for 6-8 hours.

After we finished decimating I was amazed to get the "nice spy you have Bish" allegations.

I mean DUH, a big darbar suddenly appears, it doens't take the brains of an Archbishop to realise whats going on.

Just to set it straight -
Both me and Ghi noticed the darbar, I took off ahead to scout, Ghi upped with main anti-hoard mission.
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« Reply #62 on: April 11, 2006, 09:58:30 AM »
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does this goes back to that LCA thread, where somebody calling everyone spies because rooks pm'n people where they are?  isnt robbie14 in the LCA?  why is the sky blue?:rolleyes:




Water, the sky is blue because of the sun light hitting the water in the air.  This is the same reason earth is called the blue planet. Which could raise a simular question as to why does the sky turn red/orange in the evening? Well I'm glad you asked, it's the the sun light reflecking off the dust in the air. The angle of the light show us the orange/red part of the spectrum. The same effect can be seen by passing light through a prizm which breaks the light into all colors.

So, what does this have to do with spies....nothing. Which pretty well sums up my interest in spys.

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« Reply #63 on: April 11, 2006, 09:58:59 AM »
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Was funny a couple of nights ago -

While we (Bish) held P23 a big darbar suddenly appeared in grid 6.14.
So we upped a mission against it, it was obvious it was coming to P23 Rooks had been after it for 6-8 hours.

After we finished decimating I was amazed to get the "nice spy you have Bish" allegations.

I mean DUH, a big darbar suddenly appears, it doens't take the brains of an Archbishop to realise whats going on.

Just to set it straight -
Both me and Ghi noticed the darbar, I took off ahead to scout, Ghi upped with main anti-hoard mission.


There is a certain strategic value in sewing the seeds of paranoia within your adversary's psyche. Don't explain too much Kev, let their imaginations run-away and dictate their actions, it's guarenteed to reduce their effectiveness and morale.

I can't take full credit for this, it's Sun Tzu's. ;)

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« Reply #64 on: April 11, 2006, 10:35:55 AM »
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Originally posted by Drediock

This tells me something is upping from that base as the planes up they appear on dar for a breif moment then that dar goes away as they get back down under dar.


Stupid question: if I take off and stay below radar coverage no dar bar shows, isn't it? Or the bar flashes any time someone takes off, without regards to the height he gets?
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« Reply #65 on: April 11, 2006, 12:04:25 PM »
If you never get high enough to be in radar coverage, there will be no bar. The base or town icons will flash when you're within a certain range (this is, IIRC, an arena setting, and has values for both vehicles and aircraft), but there shouldn't be a bar or dots if you're under dar, IIRC. Conversely, there will be a bar if you're high enough for the radar to "see" you, and no dots until you're within a radar circle, at which time there will be both. Hope I haven't messed that up too badly.

Also, I thought the relative percentage of nitrogen in the atmosphere was the reason for the blue tint of the air, something about it's refractive/reflective quality. (I'm many years out from my last physics class). After all, water is actually clear and colorless, so the sky can't be blue because of the water, because something else is actually making the water appear to be blue.
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« Reply #66 on: April 11, 2006, 12:19:30 PM »
"Water, the sky is blue because of the sun light hitting the water in the air. This is the same reason earth is called the blue planet. Which could raise a simular question as to why does the sky turn red/orange in the evening? Well I'm glad you asked, it's the the sun light reflecking off the dust in the air. The angle of the light show us the orange/red part of the spectrum. The same effect can be seen by passing light through a prizm which breaks the light into all colors. "


Nope, wrong answer.  Water or dust in the air is not it.  It has to do with the wavelength of the light and it's absorption and scattering not by water or dust, but by all the molecules in the atmosphere (the gas molecules, like oxygen, nitrogen, etc).

Blue light, being a shorter wavelength, is scattered more easily, thus when the sun is out, you see blue sky because blue light waves are scattered and bounced all around.  Look toward the horizon, it is paler than directly above you because of the distance.  Light traveling to you from the horizon has further to go, the short wave lengths are scattered and absorbed more, thus it is paler.

The sky is orange or red in the evening because the sun is low on the horizon and the light has a further distance to travel through the atmosphere.  The long wavelength oranges and reds make it through, but the blues do not.

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« Reply #67 on: April 11, 2006, 12:56:15 PM »
Thanks for the answer, Hub, I'll put you in the list of good BK vs evil ones! :D
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« Reply #68 on: April 11, 2006, 01:10:29 PM »
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Water, the sky is blue because of the sun light hitting the water in the air.  


I thought it was blue because if it was green you wouldn't know where to stop cutting the grass........


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« Reply #69 on: April 11, 2006, 01:32:57 PM »
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Dok what secrets are the spy getting away with that has your panties all bunched up in your crack??


None ... I just despise the hypocricy of condoning and suborning blatant cheating while at the same time having the gaul to criticize anyone else's style of play. And then going on to criticize the general state of the community while undermining it with this kind of activity.

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« Reply #70 on: April 11, 2006, 01:41:52 PM »
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Stupid question: if I take off and stay below radar coverage no dar bar shows, isn't it? Or the bar flashes any time someone takes off, without regards to the height he gets?


You are correct ... you have to break the 500ft AGL barrier to get the dar bar to register ... it doesn't have anything to do with where you are geographically on a map.
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« Reply #71 on: April 11, 2006, 01:43:47 PM »
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None ... I just despise the hypocricy of condoning and suborning blatant cheating while at the same time having the gaul to criticize anyone else's style of play. And then going on to criticize the general state of the community while undermining it with this kind of activity.


DoK --

I know this want you, but since you used teh word "suborn" I have to ask:

What is your take on several player's testimony that aStone offered them paypal transfer of real cash to leave rooks forever? That action is far closer to real "suborning" than what you condemn....

I was shocked....since aStone pushes "team effort, win the reset" so hard. I have troubel reconciling that with opposition to helping the "enemy" by sending players away from rooks. Seems a lot more pernicious than PM'ing a carriers location.

In fact, nothing has come closer to getting me to leave Rooks than thinking about flying on the same side as a guy who'd do that.
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« Reply #72 on: April 11, 2006, 01:46:13 PM »
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Originally posted by Zazen13
...Toolsheddeing griefers are like the rapists and child molestors of AH. ...


Wow.

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If you insist on pissing in the face of acceptable community standards of conduct, be very prepared to have your face pissed in as well.


What about the people who consider spying to be an affront to THEIR sense of "acceptable community standards." Did it ever once occur to you that some people don't want to play a game where they can't trust the people who are on their own team?

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« Reply #73 on: April 11, 2006, 01:49:13 PM »
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"Water, the sky is blue because of the sun light hitting the water in the air. This is the same reason earth is called the blue planet. Which could raise a simular question as to why does the sky turn red/orange in the evening? Well I'm glad you asked, it's the the sun light reflecking off the dust in the air. The angle of the light show us the orange/red part of the spectrum. The same effect can be seen by passing light through a prizm which breaks the light into all colors. "


Nope, wrong answer.  Water or dust in the air is not it.  It has to do with the wavelength of the light and it's absorption and scattering not by water or dust, but by all the molecules in the atmosphere (the gas molecules, like oxygen, nitrogen, etc).

Blue light, being a shorter wavelength, is scattered more easily, thus when the sun is out, you see blue sky because blue light waves are scattered and bounced all around.  Look toward the horizon, it is paler than directly above you because of the distance.  Light traveling to you from the horizon has further to go, the short wave lengths are scattered and absorbed more, thus it is paler.

The sky is orange or red in the evening because the sun is low on the horizon and the light has a further distance to travel through the atmosphere.  The long wavelength oranges and reds make it through, but the blues do not.


Your right and your wrong. Dust and particles do have a bearing on the colors.

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The blue color of the sky is due to Rayleigh scattering. As light moves through the atmosphere, most of the longer wavelengths pass straight through. Little of the red, orange and yellow light is affected by the air.

However, much of the shorter wavelength light is absorbed by the gas molecules. The absorbed blue light is then radiated in different directions. It gets scattered all around the sky. Whichever direction you look, some of this scattered blue light reaches you. Since you see the blue light from everywhere overhead, the sky looks blue.

As you look closer to the horizon, the sky appears much paler in color. To reach you, the scattered blue light must pass through more air. Some of it gets scattered away again in other directions. Less blue light reaches your eyes. The color of the sky near the horizon appears paler or white.

WHY IS THE SUNSET RED?

As the sun begins to set, the light must travel farther through the atmosphere before it gets to you. More of the light is reflected and scattered. As less reaches you directly, the sun appears less bright. The color of the sun itself appears to change, first to orange and then to red. This is because even more of the short wavelength blues and greens are now scattered. Only the longer wavelengths are left in the direct beam that reaches your eyes.

The sky around the setting sun may take on many colors. The most spectacular shows occur when the air contains many small particles of dust or water. These particles reflect light in all directions. Then, as some of the light heads towards you, different amounts of the shorter wavelength colors are scattered out. You see the longer wavelengths, and the sky appears red, pink or orange.
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« Reply #74 on: April 11, 2006, 01:50:55 PM »
Slapshot, you want to be in the good list, too? ;) :D
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