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Offline Elfie

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« Reply #195 on: April 13, 2006, 05:46:40 PM »
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Not according to the source Dowding posted.


After the nuke has been detonated, how do you test for where it originated from? Not likely to be pieces of the warhead just laying around.

I asked this earlier and got no response. Maybe you cant determine where the nuke originated after detonation?
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« Reply #196 on: April 13, 2006, 06:25:24 PM »
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After the nuke has been detonated, how do you test for where it originated from? Not likely to be pieces of the warhead just laying around.

I asked this earlier and got no response. Maybe you cant determine where the nuke originated after detonation?



Not all the fissable material is destroyed.  Some of it attaches to debris, this is what as known as "fallout".

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« Reply #197 on: April 13, 2006, 06:47:26 PM »
Who is the "other guy" and how would he protect NYC and LA from the terrorists? What would the "other guy" do so differently?

I'm not exchanging an actual nuclear attack on Iran for a hypothetical attack on the US. I haven't posted a single thing in favor of attacking Iran.

As for tracing the source of the fissile material,Iran reportedly has limited amounts of indigenous uranium.

The Russian-supplied nuclear reactors at the southern port of Bushehr are supplied complete with Russian-made fuel.

For the enriched uranium offshoot, Iran needs to obtain thousands of tonnes of uranium ore which it has to semi-process into a powdered form called yellowcake.

Where can they get uranium? There has been speculations that a deal has been struck with a third nuclear developing state such as Pakistan or North Korea.

Now, just exactly how are you going to place blame if the "signature" is of Russian, Chinese, North Korean or Pakistani origin? Do you "return fire" at any possible source or just Iran?

I don't think the tracing is going to be as simple as some would like it to be.

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But some nuclear explosions do leave an isotopic signature, a DNA-like fingerprint that allows forensic physicists such as Naval Postgraduate School weapons systems analyst Bob Harney to possibly determine the origin of the fissile material in the bomb. Nuclear forensics is not a precise science, Harney warns. Post-attack sites are almost certain to be contaminated with unrelated or naturally occurring radioactivity, and there are numerous, highly enriched uranium stashes in the world with unknown signatures.

But there is no question, according to Peter Huessy, a member of the Committee on the Present Danger and consultant to the National Defense University in Washington, D.C., that Russian forensic experts could quickly detect Russian isotopes, and that highly enriched uranium (HEU) from, say, France could readily be differentiated from American HEU.

But, Huessy warns, distinguishing post-blast residues of Pakistani uranium from North Korean uranium would be more challenging, probably impossible. Because neither country is a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA inspectors have been unable to collect from their facilities reliable isotope samples that could be compared to post-attack residues. Even if the uranium were traced, the source nation could claim that the material had been stolen.


If it happens, you can bet the ranch EVERYONE that is even suspected of having nukes will be crying "INNOCENT" at the top of their lungs.
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« Reply #198 on: April 13, 2006, 07:00:42 PM »
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Tell this to the victims. Not to me. For me, this question is closed long time ago.

Let's not go away from topic.


No, I'd rather tell you. Your the one spouting UN bs.

Just as long as you understand, agent orange- blue- white etc does not = WMD, despite what the screwballs at the UN say with their revisionist clap trap.

And I dare any UN twerp to come down here and tell me I spent a decade using WMDs on my own property. It would make my year if they did.  

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« Reply #199 on: April 13, 2006, 07:07:36 PM »
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« Reply #200 on: April 13, 2006, 07:42:21 PM »
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« Reply #201 on: April 13, 2006, 07:57:26 PM »
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Read "The Plutonium Files".   That website is nada, comparatively speaking.
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« Reply #202 on: April 13, 2006, 08:06:13 PM »
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That's what the owner of this house thought.

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That was built on the "Nevada Test Site" (60 miles North of Vegas) to demonstrate the effects of a blast.
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« Reply #203 on: April 13, 2006, 09:40:47 PM »
Sorry to have ascribed a position to you that you don't take, Toad.

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« Reply #204 on: April 13, 2006, 09:54:45 PM »
that house was ugly anyway.

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« Reply #205 on: April 13, 2006, 10:27:01 PM »
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Not all the fissable material is destroyed.  Some of it attaches to debris, this is what as known as "fallout".


I really dont know, so I'm asking....just how much of the fissable material is left over?
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« Reply #206 on: April 13, 2006, 10:47:44 PM »





the house was built to make sure the bomb works:lol

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« Reply #207 on: April 14, 2006, 03:25:07 AM »
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« Reply #208 on: April 14, 2006, 09:34:46 AM »
Moot,

Yep. That's how they can make the models of destruction at x distance from ground zero. They did some tests to see just how much destruction at given distances would occur. Same thing for the tests using old ships in the bikini atol.
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« Reply #209 on: April 14, 2006, 09:47:01 AM »
Thanks, I meant that Holden's point flew over their heads.
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