Screen Freeze as I take the Runway

[TequilaChaser]

Ren,
you find or figure out a way to revert back to the other directX 9 ( for 32 bit apps )? not the 64 bit version?  think that's what you said you installed, maybe that is the problem?

[DamnedRen]

Originally posted by TequilaChaser
Ren,
you find or figure out a way to revert back to the other directX 9 (for 32 bit apps )? not the 64 bit version?  think that's what you said you installed, maybe that is the problem?

That's what I plan to work on when I get up in the morning. I have to work another swing manana then I'm off until Tuesday. Saturday morning I meet with a buddies kid to give him a pep talk for his aircraft dispatachers practical test. He's a Sr in Middle TN and is nervous about it. He'll do fine. But, that will take up the better part of the morning. Then I get back to trying to figure out how to remove that directx version.

I also figured out the hyperthreading technology makes the cpu think its 2 seperate cpus. wonderful....But I can turn that off.

Im surprised Skuzzy hasn't chimed in with any ideas.

[StarOfAfrica2]

Ren, if you are having problems when you start the DX diagnostic program,  you've already found what you need to fix.  Its going to be 1 of 3 problems:  corrupt DX files, bad video driver, or bad sound drivers (or possibly just a very confused Direct X if you havent been properly uninstalling drivers in between taking things out and putting them back in).  

What I would do is uninstall your drivers for video and sound.  If you dont plan on using the onboard sound, then disable it and put your soundcard in that you plan to use.  Uninstall the drivers.  Download and run this program:

http://www.drivercleaner.net/

It will clear out all the references to the drivers in your registry and in Direct X and clean it all up for you, nice and neat.

Reboot.

Install drivers (4.12 catalyst drivers for the ATI card) for video and sound.

Go to Microsoft's website and download and install a new copy of Direct X 9.0c here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A9B6820-BFBB-4799-9908-D418CDEAC197&displaylang=en

Reboot.

Run Direct X diagnostic program, and run the video and sound tests.  If it passes with no problems detected, move on.  Set sound hardware acceleration to 3/4 just to be safe.  You can always turn it back up later.

Go to your video card's control panel and make sure your AA and AF are set to application preference.  

Go to the AH folder and delete your video configuration file.  Probably unnecessary, but why have to go backwards?  AH will automatically pick up the card again and rebuild the file.

Try AH again.  If you still have a problem at this point the only thing I can suggest is to delete AH and reinstall it from scratch.

Good luck.

[DamnedRen]

Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Ren, if you are having problems when you start the DX diagnostic program,  you've already found what you need to fix.  Its going to be 1 of 3 problems:  corrupt DX files, bad video driver, or bad sound drivers (or possibly just a very confused Direct X if you havent been properly uninstalling drivers in between taking things out and putting them back in).  

What I would do is uninstall your drivers for video and sound.  If you dont plan on using the onboard sound, then disable it and put your soundcard in that you plan to use.  Uninstall the drivers.  Download and run this program:

http://www.drivercleaner.net/

It will clear out all the references to the drivers in your registry and in Direct X and clean it all up for you, nice and neat.

Reboot.

Install drivers (4.12 catalyst drivers for the ATI card) for video and sound.

Go to Microsoft's website and download and install a new copy of Direct X 9.0c here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A9B6820-BFBB-4799-9908-D418CDEAC197&displaylang=en

Reboot.

Run Direct X diagnostic program, and run the video and sound tests.  If it passes with no problems detected, move on.  Set sound hardware acceleration to 3/4 just to be safe.  You can always turn it back up later.

Go to your video card's control panel and make sure your AA and AF are set to application preference.  

Go to the AH folder and delete your video configuration file.  Probably unnecessary, but why have to go backwards?  AH will automatically pick up the card again and rebuild the file.

Try AH again.  If you still have a problem at this point the only thing I can suggest is to delete AH and reinstall it from scratch.

Good luck.

Thanks for the help. I thought I needed to uninstall DX9 and not over write it. I can overwrite that program?  Other than being at work I've been looking around the net for an unistall program....The good news is I'm off until Tuesday so I can get something working.

I grabbed the drivecleaner program but it doesn't appear to do DX, right? Just the sound and vid drivers, I think. Thanks again.

[StarOfAfrica2]

Right.  The only Direct X removal tool I've ever seen only worked on Win9x.  It wont work for XP.  

And yes you can overwrite Direct X.  

Basically by overwriting it you are making sure you have no corrupt files, and also making sure DX picks up the newest registry entries for your video and audio drivers properly.  Windows is bad about leaving behind all kinds of crud in your registry and bits and pieces of driver files on your hard drive, and Direct X can sometimes still point to invalid files or registry entries after changing hardware or drivers.  

I'd highly recommend you run a registry cleaner as well, if you havent ever run one, but the basic scenario I outlined above should be enough to get you cleaned out and working properly.

[DamnedRen]

Thanks, Happy Easter....

Ya know what's amazing is I just loaded up a brand new winxppro, updates and all the MB's associated drivers. I plugged in my video card, and sound card along with it's drivers. DirectX was loaded. Then loaded up AH2. That's all that's in this computer....Sheeeeeeeeesh!

[StarOfAfrica2]

Maybe one of the drivers was corrupted?  Or the DX download?  My SB Live! sound card had corrupt drivers on the CD it came with.  Frustrating as hell trying to figure that one out.

[toon]

ren,where the hell are ya?been lookin for you.hope everythings good.S~

[DamnedRen]

Originally posted by COBA94
ren,where the hell are ya?been lookin for you.hope everythings good.S~

Hi Brick . Still working on the new computer. I was up over the weekend in the MA and TA using my old Dell. In fact, I used it with the ATI 9800 Pro Vid card I'm trying to get working in the new cvomputer.

So far.....

It's interesting to note the card works fine in the Dell which also uses the same operating system; WinXP Pro servpak2.  The Dell is 2.6 ghz. New cpu is 3.4 ghz and Ihaven't overclocked it...yet .

I reloaded the DX drivers, I tried Omga drivers,ATI 4.12 drivers, the latest ATI drivers.

No help.

I even tried turning off one the cores....no help.

It's being stubborn but I'll get her up and running soon!!!!
Ren

[toon]

i wish i could help you,but,as my dear sweet grandmother Mary used to say;"spit in one hand,wish in the other..see what you get."lol.hope to see you soon bro.

[DamnedRen]

Originally posted by COBA94
i wish i could help you,but,as my dear sweet grandmother Mary used to say;"spit in one hand,wish in the other..see what you get."lol.hope to see you soon bro.

Thanks. I got a old buddy from way back aw days (Fool) who is gonna let me try out his 800 gt (or whatever the vid card is) to see if I can get it working in my new box. If so, I'll just buy one of those and keep on trucking. Hopefully, he'll bring it in to work tonight and I can plug it in tomorrow morning as I'm still workng swings, Tues-Fri's for the next 6 weeks or so. Then I move to Mon-Thurs, swings for a month or so. I really hate working Fridays....

[toon]

if youre interested,i have a nvidia 5200  you can have.done with it.its not the best but its only 6 months old.if so e-mail yer address and ill get it to you pronto.S~

[toon]

baarag@aol.com

[Warspawn]

I'm actually in the same boat.  I just upgraded my old FX5600 to a GeForce 7800GS OC by BFG.  Figured I'd go for the last bit I could get out of my SK8N AGP board and the FX-51 processor before I retired it and build a new machine with SLI and PCI-E.

I get to the runway, sometimes get to take off, when all of the sudden the game locks up and the sound starts looping.  At that point it'll usually go to a blue screen with an NV4_disp.dll error.  I've cleaned out my registry and re-downloaded DX 9.0C and made sure I had the latest Bios and NVidia drivers, but still nada.  Weird, cause I can plug in my FX5600 and the game will run.

Maybe I'll disable the onboard audio and go pick up a sound card to see if that helps.  No idea what to do at this point...like the OP I have a Realtek onboard sound chip.

[DamnedRen]

I found my problem so I can at least share it with you.

A buddy has an ATI AGP X800Pro card which he yanked out of his computer and let me borrow.
I pulled out the ATI 9800Pro and yaned all the drivers. then stuck in the new card. I then stuck in his original  CD that came with his vid card. I let it load all the drivers and even the hydravision stuff. On restart I immediately went to the game and NO PROBLEMS! Nothing, Nada, Nix!

Ok so now I know for a fact I have good drivers loaded for ATI cards. I removed the X800 and stuck the 9800 back in. I restarted and went into the game and got a freeze on game start.

Conclusion....I think the card is getting a bit worn out for years of continuos hard use. I think the game is not only CPU intensive but very hard on the vid card. The ATI 9800Pro works perfectly well for normal computer use but can't handle the load the game requires. My son-in-law is just bought a Dell 24 inch flat screen monitor which arrived Friday. His old viewsonic 21 inch crt died. He had a GeForce 2mx in his Dell so I gave him the 9800 today and it works perfectly.

If you can use another card to check drivers to make sure all is compatable you might find the answer....

Hope this helps.