Change in Fields Damage Coad.

[Shaky]

OK, so I doubt anyone from HTC wants to get involved in the flame-fests over ont he Gen Disc board, I'll repost this here....this is based on the idea that the core design of the MA is a "base taking" game.....

Its possible to use portions of that design to make ofher player experiences less than enjoyable. A prime example of that is the porkers that continually roam the landscape, porking troop, ord, and hangers just to see things go "boom".

These porkers are not a reason to eliminate the core designs of the game, however they may be a reason to modify them. It is possible to keep aircraft on a field supressed without dropping the FH's , so why should the porkers have the ability to drop them completely?

Bombing the FHs should reduce the effetiveness of fighters coming up, but not eleimiate them. How to reduce effectiveness? Dunno...perhaps by limiting the types that can come up based on the damage done.

Suggestion:
5000 lbs damage: ENY<7 disabled
10000 lbs damage: ENY<15 disabled
20000 lbs damage: ENY<35 Disabled

Ordie and troops should operate the same way. Imagine if troops were damaged to the extent that you could only load 2 troops . Well..jeeps would get a lotta use then, wouldn't they?

Other things to keep in mind wityh this basic proposal....damage to each hanger should be looked at on an individual basis, so that the ENY limit on the field should be based on the LEAST damaged hanger of a type and not on the total amount of hanger damage done to a field.

This means that crippling a field so that only high ENY fighters may lift will take coordination and teamwork, especially the larget fields. The bombage/ENY damage may have to be adjusted based on that...for example, perhaps 2000 lbs of ord could drop 1 hanger 1 step, meaning it would take 4 fighters worth of ordie to drop all the hangers of a small field 1 step, 5 fighters for a med, and 7 fighters for a large.

Also notice that crippling a large field would now be a MAJOR undertaking, requiring the coopertaion of 20-30 fighter type aircraft to knock the hagers down to high ENY planes...but still, even after that, the defenders would be able to do aomething besides fly IL2's. Of course, this means trying to get a P40 up from under the vulch, but some guys would try

[moneyguy]

bases are not usually porked to watch stuff go boom. its to stop the enemy from advancing. i do like the idea of istead of eliminating troops, making less available. i do feel it is too easy to kill all the troops at a base.

[moneyguy]

oh yea, the limiting the fighters thing was cool too.

[zorstorer]

One thing....what happens to a wildly outnumbered country?  The hoard will be able to roll up the underdog and keep them in the high eny planes.  Unless you kind of roll into that our current eny thingy...unless you make it so the eny determines how low minimum eny can be "porked" down to?

[Shaky]

Originally posted by zorstorer
One thing....what happens to a wildly outnumbered country?  The hoard will be able to roll up the underdog and keep them in the high eny planes.  Unless you kind of roll into that our current eny thingy...unless you make it so the eny determines how low minimum eny can be "porked" down to?

These are things that need to be worked out. Of course part of it should be rolled into the current ENY limiter set up.

Keep in mind that the alternative is FHs totally down...the minimum tonnage to drop 1 step should be at LEAST the amount currently to drop the whole hanger, and all hangers on the field have to be knocked down 1 step for the limiter to kick in.

[Mr No Name]

personally, i dont like it... thats kinda like changing the rules in the middle of the game to get a result... much like the 'side balancing' limitations in place now...

you just cant make the world a fair place unless everyone plays by the same rules... reminds me of our tax code/welfare system that punishes achievement and rewards the parasites.

[Docc]

Just harden the acks, hangers, ord, and troops.  Allow all the acks to be manned and give them the accuracy that the supply trains acks have.  When not manned, the acks should be AI controlled with the same accuracy as the trains.

[Bronk]

Check out karelia map. That's how VH bases should be set up.




Bronk

[zorstorer]

Originally posted by Bronk
Check out karelia map. That's how VH bases should be set up.




Bronk

After playing that map a few frames now....I AM IN LOVE!!!

It's such a cool map I found myself just admiring the scenery as it went past, either in a gv or aircraft