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Offline mora

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« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2006, 04:46:14 AM »
On older engines there are external EGR pipes and also studs on the head/intake manifold IIRC. On newer engines there are passages inside the head and "EGR plates" between the head and the manifolds to optimize exhaust gas distribution.
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« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2006, 08:35:13 AM »
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Hmmm, when and where did I mention stud? I was talking about the passage that goes from one side of the head into the other, the chamber. Which is found on for small block heads along with many other heads out there... which then gos into the intake. No stud there genious. Stop trolling, ignorant trolls are the worst. They just make you look stupider than you already are.

 

You sound alot like MrBlack, you going to show us picturs of your crib next? Or I know, fake copies of a tech school diploma. ROFL.

For being ASE certified they sure dont teach you much these days I guess. :lol Studded EGR passages?

Ok Mr.Rodriges autobody.
EGR valves (the ones that on heads)  held by studs,you kretin.
I spoke of studs becouse only morons like you would actualy drill the passage itself.
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« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2006, 09:04:49 AM »
LOL!

You have NO idea do you?

Order a set of race heads from say, AFR, see how many of them come already drilled for emisions chit. Heads from AFR, and other companies like World Products must be drilled through if you plan on driving it on the street and have any chance of going through and passing emisions. Yep that's right you assuming moron. I know you dont get to play much with the brighter side of cars, what with doing brake jobs at jiffy lube, so I'm going easy on you.

Being the ASE cert'd car Genious that you make yourself out to be, again, you're really pretty dumb aren't ya?
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« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2006, 09:22:05 AM »
I'm sorry, I dont have any pictures for you. I realize its probably difficult for you otherwise.

http://www.worldcastings.com/tech/windsorjrcylinderheads.doc
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« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2006, 09:26:12 AM »
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You didn't say what cylinder your talikn about, so I'll guess it's #1, closest to the firewall & hardest to reach.
If that's the case, pull the head. It will be much easier to work on,  or, if you have to take to somewhere.
Get it done right the first time, nothing to worry about, & an engine that will last another 22 years.
Good luck.


hmmm.......

To my recollection number 1 is always the front cylinder?

It's the number 2 cylinder, second from the front.
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« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2006, 02:21:34 PM »
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hmmm.......

To my recollection number 1 is always the front cylinder?

It's the number 2 cylinder, second from the front.

#1 is usually closest to the camshaft belt/chain/gears, no matter which way the engine is fitted. In an older Saab the #1 is closest to the firewall, which is very rare. In a V-engine it's usually closest on the left bank IIRC.
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« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2006, 11:30:20 PM »
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LOL!

You have NO idea do you?

Order a set of race heads from say, AFR, see how many of them come already drilled for emisions chit. Heads from AFR, and other companies like World Products must be drilled through if you plan on driving it on the street and have any chance of going through and passing emisions. Yep that's right you assuming moron. I know you dont get to play much with the brighter side of cars, what with doing brake jobs at jiffy lube, so I'm going easy on you.

Being the ASE cert'd car Genious that you make yourself out to be, again, you're really pretty dumb aren't ya?


I knew it,the racing crap.
Cars that on production line don't need to be drilled the crap out of them honey.
Now where were we?
Oh yeah.

"To begin, the heads will need to be disassembled before drilling."

You never read this part did you kid?
Why did you skip the stud repairing comment?
For your power drill oriented mind I'm gonna have to make it simple....
You can repair/replace  thread/stud on almost any surface except the spark plug thread.
Your linguistic skills won't help you  fix anything,unless you fix it with your mouth.
Why don't you go suck on that Chinese racing  muffler that on your car,you big mouth should be able to fit the biggest diameter in it.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2006, 11:35:26 PM by KgB »
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« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2006, 01:24:08 AM »
LOL you can't helicoil plug threads now? since when? I've seen a dozen cars with a plug that was helicoiled in, and it worked fine for years.

You have to be that same loud mouth KGB in the MA. It makes perfect sense now. The one who knows everything about anything.

My point in mentioning not removing and disasembling the heads to install/drill the egr ports/passages was to put this stupid little sparkplug problem into perspective. Idiots like you are telling him to go run to the local hack shop like you work at and drop a load of bills to do something that could be done in his garage in a few hours, if that. But the BS you feed people is what keeps hack shops like the one you work at in business.

Why did I skip the stud comment? Because it has nothing to do with anything. Just another line of BS from you. MrBlack Jr here, im sure of it.
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« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2006, 04:09:40 PM »
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LOL you can't helicoil plug threads now? since when? I've seen a dozen cars with a plug that was helicoiled in, and it worked fine for years.

You have to be that same loud mouth KGB in the MA. It makes perfect sense now. The one who knows everything about anything.
 


Helicoil plug threads....must be one of yours "Fast and Furios" fixes.
Yes,i know you gonna call it fake,but why do i even you bother?
BTW i rearely open my mouth in MA,unlike you.





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« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2006, 05:12:35 PM »
Hmmm...........

How did this get taken personal??????

FYI  my history contains C.E.R. Certification for the Lycoming T53- L - 11 to 13 engines and the G.E. T76 engine.  U.S.M.C. schooling at Camp Pendelton.

My Primary M.O.S. was 6124.

I was also a crewchief/doorgunner for Hueys.

Later became RedCross certified in emergency medical by order of my OIC at Yuma Arizona S.A.R.  we used HH-1K's.  I was also left seat/crewchief there.  I later became N.C.O.I.C. of night crew maintanence Sgt/E5. We worked on all aircraft all systems.

I've been a certified Volkswagon Mech and worked at Orange County VW.

I've also been a motorcycle mechanic.

I've been a mechanic much of my life.  I just got tired of the constant aching, dirty, and injured hands I had all the time, and the E.P.A. stuff and the computerization of everything.  That and the V.A. decided I'm partially disable with Agent Orange related issues.  These are things I've been informed I may not do for a living.....No prolonged standing, sitting, No heavy lifting, No driveing all day long.

I own 84 and 82 Toyota trucks, both 4x4, because I can work on them with out all the computerized equipment.

I put this thread in because I ALWAYS try to find a better way of doing such work.  From time to time new or rehash of old information is a BIG help to me.

Opinions were SOUGHT by me regarding a broken off, flush with the head, sparkplug, I was not looking to start a fight or any of this to become personal.

For those that responeded with information I thank YOU!

I bought some PB Blast.  But already used some Breaksfree as well.  Taking my time here.  Don't want to add any great expense to this situation.

For any that may have further INFO please post.

As to the personal issues stuff, please stop.
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« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2006, 07:04:16 AM »
I didnt start it,Morph got offended and went off for some reason.
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« Reply #56 on: April 28, 2006, 12:12:06 PM »
LOL Right.
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« Reply #57 on: April 28, 2006, 12:12:39 PM »
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Helicoil plug threads....must be one of yours "Fast and Furios" fixes.
Yes,i know you gonna call it fake,but why do i even you bother?
BTW i rearely open my mouth in MA,unlike you.





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Course Seq Status Date
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[WB050] TECHNICAL SYSTEMS    Completed 04/14/02
[OL117] REVOLUTIONARY 7 SERIES INNOVATIONS    Completed 04/15/02
[ST050] TECHNICAL SYSTEMS  201  Completed 04/29/02
[ST051] BODY ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONICS I  178  Completed 09/09/02
[ST052] BODY ELECTRONICS II  197  Completed 01/13/03
[IP015] ENGINE ELECTRONICS    Completed 10/13/03
[ST055] ENGINE ELECTRONICS  205  Cancelled 11/03/03
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[VI284] SERVICE ROUNDTABLE 2/04  14  Completed 03/10/04
[VI296] SERVICE ROUNDTABLE 3/04  19  Completed 03/29/04
[VI313] SERVICE ROUNDTABLE 5/04  3  Completed 05/21/04
[VI324] SERVICE ROUNDTABLE 6/04  7  Completed 06/28/04
[ST048] X3 COMPLETE VEHICLE  182  Cancelled 07/21/04
[ST036] X5 COMPLETE VEHICLE  309  No Show 09/09/04
[VI345] THE SERVICE ROUNDTABLE 9/04  7  Completed 10/01/04
BMW Technician TECH SYS II ST050 X
Certified Technician BODY ELECTRONICS I ST051 X
Certified Technician BODY ELECTRONICS II ST052 X
Certified Technician ENGINE ELECTRONICS ST055 X
Diagnostic Technician CLIMATE CONTROL F & D ST054
 
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Diagnostic Technician X5 COMPLETE VEHICLE ST036
 
Master Technician 2004 SYSTEMS DIAGNOSIS ST049
 
Master Technician CHASSIS DYNAMICS ST056
 
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LMAO MrBlack.
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« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2006, 03:28:07 PM »
OK got the broke off plug out.

Used Breaksfree at 1st then went to PBblaster.

Used the square EZout.

Got the ceramic material out.

First 2 tries I just shaved off metal from the inside of the plug.

Thrid try it started to move in very tiny pops?????

Took awhile but I got it out.
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« Reply #59 on: April 28, 2006, 04:32:06 PM »
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OK got the broke off plug out.

Used Breaksfree at 1st then went to PBblaster.

Used the square EZout.

Got the ceramic material out.

First 2 tries I just shaved off metal from the inside of the plug.

Thrid try it started to move in very tiny pops?????

Took awhile but I got it out.


hehe, use heat resistant antisieze, and a torque wrench if you dont know your own strenght, this time.:aok
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