Iran has enriched uranium

[Yeager]

The only way I could ever see Bush authorizing the use of a nuclear weapon offensively (not in retaliation) would be in a critical moment of threat threshold, where failure to do so would result in hundreds of thousands, or millions of american lives lost in a single terrorist event.  In a situation like that there can be no other alternative.

Keep in mind Bush only has little more than two more years left.  I dont see a big Iranian threat buildup in that time, only the potential to build a few crude bombs....

[RAIDER14]

Originally posted by Seagoon
Hi Raider,

 

The problem with that scenario is that any strike on an active reactor inevitably becomes a Nuclear strike. To take out Iran's Nuclear capabilities via a series of conventional strikes would create a lot of little Chernobyls throughout the country with all the attendant fallout and widespread radiation poisoning. There is also no way we could prevent the wind from carrying contamination to surrounding countries, including Iraq with all of its US personel.

Additionally, those strikes would inevitably provoke a state of war between the US and Iran, provoke an Opec Oil Embargo and put the worldwide Jihad into top gear. It wouldn't be a one time strike kind of thing. The thing to do would have been to prevent them from building reactors in the first place. But with friends like Russia and Pakistan...

In any event, strike Iran and you have a World War with Islam, and I don't believe we have the stomach for that (then again I have serious doubts whether we have the stomach for much more of the limited war either). So what's left? Wait for Iran to develop several A-bombs and pray they don't actually nuke Israel?  I'm not a bookie, but I can't see them not using them since from their position its a win-win proposition. As much as I hate to say it, at this point I think it will take the development and use of a nuke by Iran to galvanize America and the West to commit. The best case scenario might be the Iranians attempt to nuke Israel and the Patriot and Arrow systems shoot down the missile in flight. But that's an awfully big gamble.

The problem with the radiation blowing to Iraq can maybe be solved by giveing our troops radiation suits and installing led in the buildings and the U.S. might be able to stomach a second Cold War after all we kinda won the last Cold War and We are thr most powerful Country on the planet

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Iceman24
There will NEVER be a US president who srikes with nuclear weapons. Its political suicide. The main job of any politician is to get elected again, if they were to use nukes they would never see public office again.

What about a second term president?

[Glasses]

Originally posted by RAIDER14
The problem with the radiation blowing to Iraq can maybe be solved by giveing our troops radiation suits and installing led in the buildings and the U.S. might be able to stomach a second Cold War after all we kinda won the last Cold War and We are thr most powerful Country on the planet

So were the Romans.

I think Iran will get into a military confrontation with the US sooner rather than later I don't think however it will be under W's reign. I do think however it'll be soon  in '09. That's my suspition, cus they need a whooping.  Now however the outcome would be somewhat different,since it's a large country, and I do believe the US will have to invest heavily in building its ground forces once again. This while leaving big expensive projects for other armed forces branches either cancelled or cut.

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by Boroda
I am 100% sure that any detected launch anywhere will be immediately reported to all nuclear-capable countries and possible targets. Just as any undeclared US ICBM launch now will be immediately reported to Iran, while our Strategic Missile Corps will run the launch preparation sequence.

Look at it this way, you can prep all the missiles you want, but with corroded guidance systems, you are more likely to blow yourselves up then provide any accurate payload placement in the US.  

Face it, your days as a super power are long since gone.

[Vulcan]

Ahhh this thread takes me back to the 80's, cold war hysteria, yanks and russkies going at it, Red Dawn, songs about hot looking Soviet border guards....

[RedTop]

Interesting reading here as well as the other doomsday thread.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Bodhi
Look at it this way, you can prep all the missiles you want, but with corroded guidance systems, you are more likely to blow yourselves up then provide any accurate payload placement in the US.  

Face it, your days as a super power are long since gone.

Perhaps our
Cuban Friend   could be of assistance

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Bodhi
Look at it this way, you can prep all the missiles you want, but with corroded guidance systems, you are more likely to blow yourselves up then provide any accurate payload placement in the US.  

Wanna test it yourself? Every month or so we have test launches with warheads hitting 10m target circles at Kamchatka.

Originally posted by Bodhi
Face it, your days as a super power are long since gone.

I don't care, and I think that your leaders don't share this point of view, otherwise, if they will be sure that there will be no retalliation strike - they'll launch all they can at us in a matter of minutes.

We are immune to "democratisation" by "humanitarian bombings" and cruise missiles, and in the last 5 years Russia follows independant policy, unlike previous gand of puppets controlled from DC. That's probably why your brass-hats are so annoyed.

[Bogie603rd]

Look at it this way, their point of view they want America to die. Their main objective will be to cripple us, and then slowly pick us off. After we're downgraded in defenses and tactical oppertunities (Since obviouslly nobody wants to use a nuke) Iraq will then go on a rampage to sack the world.

They have already sworn that if the US invades, they will sink the oil ships that supply america with it's oil addiction! And them having that new under-water missile. I believe it! So, face it. We either invade and lose our oil products courtesy of the iranian 200 MPH under-water-missile. Or we turn Iran into a giant glow-in-the-dark glass bowl and drill down to the oil easier!

Wait, doesent the idea we had in here earlier mentioning snipers sound good? Would fix part of the problem!

[detch01]

Originally posted by Bogie603rd
...Iraq will then go on a rampage to sack the world.
 

 This thread is a classic!



asw

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Bogie603rd
Look at it this way, their point of view they want America to die.

Do they? I thought they want America to stop it's aggressive policy in the Middle East and stop threating to invade another independant country. They look at their neighbour and see some reasons to be a little paranoid.

Originally posted by Bogie603rd
They have already sworn that if the US invades, they will sink the oil ships that supply america with it's oil addiction! And them having that new under-water missile. I believe it! So, face it. We either invade and lose our oil products courtesy of the iranian 200 MPH under-water-missile. Or we turn Iran into a giant glow-in-the-dark glass bowl and drill down to the oil easier!

Please, define it to yourself, if they want you to die or they simply plan some actions if their country will be invaded.

Underwater missile! OMG, I am scared! I can see US govt evacuating Arizona because of this horrible threat to use jet-propelled torpedoes. You guys have much more reasons to worry because of this torpedoes then evil Iranians worry now about being turned into a "giant glow-in-the-dark glass bowl"! At 200MpH this horrible torpedoes will reach US in no more then 96 hours!

I really don't know if you guys are scary or funny.

[Bogie603rd]

Originally posted by Boroda
Do they? I thought they want America to stop it's aggressive policy in the Middle East and stop threating to invade another independant country. They look at their neighbour and see some reasons to be a little paranoid.
 

Have you seen the footage of the Iranian president talking about their weapons? When the camera switched to the crowd.. The majority are holding signs reading "Death to America"

Originally posted by Boroda
Underwater missile! OMG, I am scared! I can see US govt evacuating Arizona because of this horrible threat to use jet-propelled torpedoes. You guys have much more reasons to worry because of this torpedoes then evil Iranians worry now about being turned into a "giant glow-in-the-dark glass bowl"! At 200MpH this horrible torpedoes will reach US in no more then 96 hours!

Hmm... did I mention the homeland or the Oil Ships? Read what it says for once.... THE OIL SHIPS! And it's not a torpedo... It's a fuel powered missile. I saw the footage, and I know what I saw.

[john9001]

Boroda, why do you hate democracy so much , do you really think it's a bad thing for a people to elect their own government? Do you fear freedom that much?

[lukster]

Wonder if radioactive oil will give ya any extra ooomph? Probably charge more for it the bastages.

Originally posted by Bogie603rd
Look at it this way, their point of view they want America to die. Their main objective will be to cripple us, and then slowly pick us off. After we're downgraded in defenses and tactical oppertunities (Since obviouslly nobody wants to use a nuke) Iraq will then go on a rampage to sack the world.

They have already sworn that if the US invades, they will sink the oil ships that supply america with it's oil addiction! And them having that new under-water missile. I believe it! So, face it. We either invade and lose our oil products courtesy of the iranian 200 MPH under-water-missile. Or we turn Iran into a giant glow-in-the-dark glass bowl and drill down to the oil easier!

Wait, doesent the idea we had in here earlier mentioning snipers sound good? Would fix part of the problem!