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« Reply #105 on: April 26, 2006, 07:30:37 PM »
Reporting simple dollar amounts for huge corporations means nothing:
(The taxes you pay on a gallon of gas in the U.S. exceed the amount of profit the evil oil companies make on that same gallon of gas)


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Why investigate the issue and find out the many major reasons gas prices are so high when I can blame the oil companies just like TV news does? That's the attitude the media have been driving home for more than a year now. They bemoan the "record profits" of oil companies and don't bother to tell you they have no idea what that really means.
    In the real world, that means merely the oil companies are big, and big companies, if well-run, inherently make big profits. The actual percentage profit, a number used by investors, not blowhards, illustrates this. ExxonMobil had more profit than any other company, but it also is "gi-normous" as a friend of mine used to say. Still, its profit margin was 10.6 percent, placing it at No. 116 on Fortune's list of top 500 companies.
   
By contrast, Microsoft made almost 3 times as much -- 30.8 percent.
    It wasn't long ago the Redmond giant was one of the most hated companies. Now Bill and Mrs. Gates are Time magazine Persons of the Year for their charity efforts in a story titled "The good Samaritans." And Microsoft rakes in profits as a successful company should.
   
 Even Microsoft did poorly compared to some other tech firms. The Internet giant Yahoo made a 36.1 percent profit. The wireless Internet company Qualcomm made a 37.8 percent profit.
    Yet the media criticize oil companies. We got sarcastic comments by Charles Gibson of "Good Morning America" April 11 when he made it clear he blames the oil industry for our problems. Mr. Gibson says current events led "everybody to be very cynical about what the oil companies are doing." I'm cynical about what he's doing by asking such loaded questions as: "Is it really, truly a supply-and-demand issue, as so many people wonder, or is it that the oil companies gouge us?"


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 Or maybe the story is just too darn complicated for TV. Though a few oil stories did touch on some of the real causes of our gas prices, too many didn't. They left out the fear factor from Mideast instability -- BusinessWeek says that adds $15 a barrel, though other estimates are up to $30. Then there's Hugo Chavez in Venezuela threatening to turn off our oil, and terrorism in oil-producing Nigeria. Journalists ignored the taxes that can add more than 60 cents per gallon in New York, nearly 50 cents in five other states and 40 cents in about 17 more.    Of course, we still have some refineries offline after Katrina and a shortage of ethanol the government mandates as a gasoline additive.
    That doesn't begin to address increased U.S. demand because of warm weather driving, not to mention increased demand worldwide.
    Yeah, I think I'll just blame the oil companies. It's simpler.


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« Reply #106 on: April 26, 2006, 09:07:44 PM »
Now find in the report where we gave Microsoft 30 billion in tax dollars to "help" them along.  You can't can you.  I say we should do as any other country in crisis would do "nationalize" the oil business in this country LOL then the price would go to 10 dollars a gallon.
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« Reply #107 on: April 26, 2006, 09:16:24 PM »
The best thing that could happen to our balance of trade would be for oil to go to $100 / bbl.  

That would make alternate domestic synfuel sources extremely profitable and that business would grow to replace imports more quickly.
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« Reply #108 on: April 27, 2006, 02:34:37 AM »
suck kirkuk dry like we was linda lovlace, then get outta town & pay our debt to society like we was roman polanski

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« Reply #109 on: April 27, 2006, 02:38:01 AM »
speaking of hollywood, oil & world afairs, has engrish finally gone mainstream? the fit is go?

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« Reply #110 on: April 27, 2006, 04:08:00 AM »
LOL HMcG! I can tell you're a thinking man. :aok

HangTime - I think it's going to be a while before "you don't want it any more". America coming off oil is going to be like a heroin junkie going cold turkey - a smooth and seamless transition - NOT!

You make great play about price gouging, Saudi princes - blaming these factors for current gas prices. But as recently as 2001 the price of crude oil was less than $25/bbl, now it's over $70/bbl. Don't you think that this new higher price might, just might (I know it's a long shot!) have something to do with the current price of gasoline?

To answer your question about the gas price here - it has gone up by about 32% in 2½ years. It hasn't doubled because a greater proportion of the pump price is flat rate tax. At the current rate of exchange (£1 = $1.78) a US gallon here is equating to about $6.50. But, now that my Audi has nearly 10,000 miles on it, it's nicely run in and doing well. I made a trip to Chiswick, west London yesterday, and even driving at 90mph for a good 10 miles of that, overall consumption for the trip worked out at 49.3mpg. At 20,000 miles a year, I expect my annual fuel bill at the current price will be a little over £2000 = $3568. At current US prices I could expect that figure to be $2000, so I'm ~$1500 worse off. Bite me.

BoxBoy, I think you're talking out of your arse.
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Facts are that the oil companies could just drop their profits to pre gouge levels (which with all the heat being turn up they will do soon) and the price of gas here in the US will return to 2 to 2.30 levels.
Again, the price of crude oil has tripled from what it was as recently as 2001. The US has no control over this price.

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This is 2006...Democrats have been blocking even EXPLORATORY stuff on the frozen tundra which is Anwar since 1996. Current world oil production only has 2 million barrels a day of spare capacity.... U.S. refinery capacity is maxed (and STILL hasn't reached pre-Katrina levels) As long as these conditions apply, gas will be where it is-- world won't come to an end.
According to the  US Department of the Interior, crude oil reserves in the ANWAR stand at 10.4 billion barrels of recoverable oil. At the current rate of US consumption, 10.4bn barrels wouldn't even last 18 months. The article estimates that delivery from that region could be 1.4 million bbl/day - nowhere near enough to offset the 13 million bbl/day that the US imports from OPEC.
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« Reply #111 on: April 27, 2006, 05:20:44 AM »
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The best thing that could happen to our balance of trade would be for oil to go to $100 / bbl.  

That would make alternate domestic synfuel sources extremely profitable and that business would grow to replace imports more quickly.

I  love this idea!

Why stop at $100/bbl? Why not go for $200/bbl? Hell, make it $300/bbl!

Since your goal is to cut your friggin' head off, you should use the sharpest damn sword you can find and get it over quickly. You don't want to be hacking away at your neck over and over with a dull, jagged ax.

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« Reply #112 on: April 27, 2006, 06:07:19 AM »
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1. When we don't want it any more.

2. When we chuck out the pinhead oilmen in washington that are 'good friends' with the Saudi Princes.

So, whats the current price per US gallon for gas in England today?


You truly think an admin change will lower gas prices???

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« Reply #113 on: April 27, 2006, 08:52:27 AM »
rolex...at some point price per barrel will be enough to use alternatives.  Why can't you see that?

There is coal and oil shale and off shore oil and anwar oil and nuke power all waiting...

I think beet is right that there will be some pain and adjustment but... As I have said in other threads...

What is your solution rolex?  give us some specifics.... All I have seen you say is that we "have to do something in the next ten years"...

What the hell does that mean?   Build nuke plants?  explore for oil?  kick the EPA in the jewels and get some refineries built?  

What exactly?   We know the government is not the answer right?   the government only has our money and they spend it foolishly right?  We sure as hell wouldn't want to live like the japs right?   The government has never invented anything with the possible exception of the A bomb with our money.

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« Reply #114 on: April 27, 2006, 09:15:08 AM »
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You truly think an admin change will lower gas prices???

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« Reply #115 on: April 27, 2006, 10:15:29 AM »
http://www.discover.com/issues/may-03/features/featoil/

http://www.changingworldtech.com/where/index.asp

This is still the answer to weaning the US off OPEC imo. The potential here is astounding. With crude oil prices going up, this technology is more viable than ever. Just converting all the agricultural waste to oil will leave us importing very little oil. Add in *recycling* of human waste from sewage plants and the US has extra oil to export.

This is a very exciting technology. Hopefully this gets a major kick-start with crude prices as high as they are.
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« Reply #116 on: April 27, 2006, 10:35:03 AM »
Beet's paying $6.50 a gal for gas...

somehow, that makes the $3.16 I'm paying seem a lot less painful.

even funnier is the fact he's unpreturbed by the rape job he's getting.

So, Muadib; tell me again how much Beets paying?


$6.50?? !!!  BWAHAHAHAHHA HAHHAH HAAAAA!

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« Reply #117 on: April 27, 2006, 12:30:42 PM »
Thats pretty funny Hang. :rofl
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« Reply #118 on: April 27, 2006, 03:00:22 PM »
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I  love this idea!


Profit is a hell of a motivator.  It has shown to be much better than any government caveat.  The computer you use to read this was developed  with profit as a motivator.

Cutting my head off?  How in the hell do you get that?  The change from crude oil to another energy system is going to take some time and a little pain.  The quickest way to get it done is to allow alternate energy to become hugely profitable.  That is done easily by making it less expensive than oil. The quickest way to do that is to allow the price of oil to continue to rise.  I think we should do that, because we cannot stop it anyhow.
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« Reply #119 on: April 27, 2006, 04:22:33 PM »
(£1 = $1.78) = Crap now I am pissed  :o :mad: :confused:











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