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Offline humble

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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2006, 12:37:16 PM »
I'm curious as well wht that "remote" sensor is monitoring....the CPU shows at 43/44 with no real increase under load....the remote is in the 58 range at idle and goes to 70+....

58 is way to hot for a CPU at idle....could it be temp on the southbrige chipset?

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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2006, 12:43:05 PM »
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What video settings are you using in the game, and how much system RAM does your computer have, and what video card are you using?


1280 x 1024
256mg textures
loaded in sys mem & on card
skins not loaded
hardware vertex on both optimize boxs checked as well

1 gig PC3200
7900GT (driver # 8.3.9.1)

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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2006, 01:22:40 PM »
Quick lets beat Humble and drag his dxdiag outta him :D

Goto start /run / dxdiag     <--- type that in  save file  when done and either email it to Skuzzy or post it here (ussually the 1st 1/3 of the file is enough )

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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2006, 01:47:17 PM »
this is the one I ran yesterday with the onboard sound.....

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System Information
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Time of this report: 4/22/2006, 08:52:49
       Machine name: DAVESBOX
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Compaq Presario 061
       System Model: EL445AA-ABA SR1750NX NA650
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~2.2GHz
             Memory: 1022MB RAM
          Page File: 310MB used, 2053MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found. DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 7 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful.
        Sound Tab 1: DirectSound test results: All tests were successful.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 7900 GT
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0291&SUBSYS_22111682&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 256.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0010.8391 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 3/9/2006 22:38:38, 3960064 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: n/a
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 3/9/2006 22:38:40, 3642784 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-41D1-11CF-F555-1B0200C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0291
        SubSys ID: 0x22111682
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
 Deinterlace Caps: {212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {212DC724-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
 D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
 D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
 D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Realtek AC97 Audio
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4370&SUBSYS_2A27103C&REV_02
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5910 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 8/29/2005 15:11:00, 3644928 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0x0
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Realtek AC97 Audio
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5910 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 8/29/2005 15:11:00, 3644928 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x0
           Format Flags: 0x0


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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2006, 02:02:28 PM »
BTW this is the spec sheet for the MB

A8AE-LE

There is a passive heatsink for the ATI RS482 CS....i'm guessing thats whre the remote sensor is. The heatsink on the CPU looks to be pretty good....


CPU fan/heatsink

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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2006, 02:04:24 PM »
totally unrelated to the topic on hand, but you don't have your moniters INF files installed (where it says "plug and play moniter" it should say "phillips 107s" or whatever model moniter yours is). i forgot where i heard about it, but having the proper moniter drives does something good.
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2006, 02:28:18 PM »
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totally unrelated to the topic on hand, but you don't have your moniters INF files installed (where it says "plug and play moniter" it should say "phillips 107s" or whatever model moniter yours is). i forgot where i heard about it, but having the proper moniter drives does something good.
Identifies my LCD as a Sceptre X9 (which is correct) in device manager...but shows as a P&P in the diagnostics above...

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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2006, 03:00:02 PM »
hmmm thats weird, never seen that before.
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2006, 03:10:52 PM »
Been doing a bit of amature diagnostics....I unloaded mt saitek software and unplugged my peddle and JS...if I load AH I get the couple of normal spikes and then stuff flattens out pretty well....now if I use the numbad to alter view I get an immediate spike that settles when I release view back to default???

the video card works great with no studders or problems and benchmarks fine??? But I repaeted this enough times to know its not a fluke....will reload JS and see if I get same thing looking around...

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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2006, 03:17:26 PM »
Same result, the spiking seems to be related to the "views"....guess I'll experiment with different drivers...any known conflicts between the onboard ATI graphics and the Nvidia cards???

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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2006, 03:30:02 PM »
reload ah .. run at defalts   set up at 512 .
 dont preload anything .

now lets see what it does .

Also you may need to drop your video screen size down and increase hz ..
 Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)   <--- 60hz sux bigtime

I cant play unless i see 72hz or better
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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2006, 03:43:02 PM »
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Also you may need to drop your video screen size down and increase hz ..
 Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)   <--- 60hz sux bigtime

I cant play unless i see 72hz or better
he's on an LCD..

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Identifies my LCD as a Sceptre X9 (which is correct) in device manager...
so there isn't that "flicker" from a CRT @ 60hz


EDIT> dumb question... is your keyboard a USB? is it directly into the back of the PC or into an external USB hub? i was running my JS into a hub, and the game was unplayable, as the input was not at the same time as i moved the stick... something to do with the hub. also, is it a wireless keyboard? what happens with a normal keyboard pressing a view key?
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2006, 05:02:26 PM »
I found a external powered usb hub stabilized my X45
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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2006, 05:42:56 PM »
regular mouse and keyboard

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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2006, 05:44:29 PM »
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reload ah .. run at defalts   set up at 512 .
 dont preload anything .

now lets see what it does .

Also you may need to drop your video screen size down and increase hz ..
 Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)   <--- 60hz sux bigtime

I cant play unless i see 72hz or better


I deleted AH using the add/delete program feature in control panel and when I reload AH it restores my settings...so it comes up with old settings and passwords etc....

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