Saving Nash the trouble...

[midnight Target]

This certainly seems bothersome.... Bush getting a free pass on this one too?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60minutes/main1527749.shtml

According to Drumheller, CIA Director George Tenet delivered the news about the Iraqi foreign minister at a high-level meeting at the White House, including the president, the vice president and Secretary of State Rice.

At that meeting, Drumheller says, "They were enthusiastic because they said, they were excited that we had a high-level penetration of Iraqis."

What did this high-level source tell him?

"He told us that they had no active weapons of mass destruction program," says Drumheller.

"So in the fall of 2002, before going to war, we had it on good authority from a source within Saddam's inner circle that he didn't have an active program for weapons of mass destruction?" Bradley asked.

"Yes," Drumheller replied. He says there was doubt in his mind at all.

"It directly contradicts, though, what the president and his staff were telling us," Bradley remarked.

"The policy was set," Drumheller says. "The war in Iraq was coming. And they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy, to justify the policy."

Drumheller expected the White House to ask for more information from the Iraqi foreign minister.

But he says he was taken aback by what happened. "The group that was dealing with preparation for the Iraq war came back and said they're no longer interested," Drumheller recalls. "And we said, 'Well, what about the intel?' And they said, 'Well, this isn't about intel anymore. This is about regime change.'"

"And if I understand you correctly, when the White House learned that you had this source from the inner circle of Saddam Hussein, they were thrilled with that," Bradley asked.

"The first we heard, they were. Yes," Drumheller replied.

Once they learned what it was the source had to say — that Saddam Hussein did not have the capability to wage nuclear war or have an active WMD program, Drumheller says, "They stopped being interested in the intelligence."

[SOB]

To simplify things, please feel free to pick one or more of the following and identify by letter.

A: Liberal Media
B: CBS making up stories again!
C: Bush never said we were going there ONLY to deal with WMDs
D: So what?  Slick Willy was the biggest liar to ever occupy the office!
E: LOL LOL LOL
F: Libs showing their desparation yet again.
G: WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT OUR TROOPS?!
H: What would the Iraqi Foriegn Minister know?  Those WMDs were there, and now Syria has them.
I: Hillary is a potato!
J: All of the above.

[Russian]

I select A, H and I.

[Krusher]

Originally posted by midnight Target
This certainly seems bothersome.... Bush getting a free pass on this one too?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60minutes/main1527749.shtml

And a free pass on all of those documents and tapes they translated so far !


Documents
Saddam Hussein's regime was planning suicide attacks on U.S. interests six months before 9-11.

Saddam's regime was not only providing aid and support for terrorist organizations of other countries. It was also planning its own bombings directed at U.S. facilities and personnel.

Putin verified this in 2004 -
"Russian special services and Russian intelligence several times received . . . information that official organs of Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist acts on the territory of the U.S. and beyond its borders, at U.S. military and civilian locations."

Saddam's older son Uday ordered 50 members of the fanatical "Fedayeen Saddam" group to stage bombings and assassinations in Iraq and Europe — including London, where 10 people were assigned.


Ties to Al-Qaida
In a February 1995 meeting between Saddam's spies and Osama bin Laden. During that meeting, bin Laden offered to conduct "joint operations" with Iraq. Saddam subsequently ordered his aides to "develop the relationship" with the al-Qaida leader.

A fax, sent on June 6, 2001, shows conclusively that Saddam's government provided financial aid to Abu Sayyaf guerrillas in the Philippines. Abu Sayyaf is an al-Qaida offshoot co-founded by bin Laden's brother-in-law.


Tapes

on a 1997 tape Sadam's son-in-law — who was in charge of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction — gloats about lying to U.N. weapons inspectors to hide the extent of Iraq's WMD program.

Saddam, in a tape made in 2000, talks with Iraqi scientists about his plans to build a nuclear device. He discusses Iraq's plasma separation program — an advanced uranium-enrichment technique completely missed by U.N. inspectors.

[Holden McGroin]

K. since 1998 the policy of the United States, passed by congress and signed by the President, was to seek regime change in Iraq.

[DREDIOCK]

Since when is a "Foreign minister" Part of an inner circle with reguard to domestic military programs?

Isnt a "Foreign Minister" Basically a diplomat/Ambassador which is little more then a messenger boy for the government of his country?

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
K. since 1998 the policy of the United States, passed by congress and signed by the President, was to seek regime change in Iraq.

Hmmm... I'm not sure it's worded that way.

"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

[DiabloTX]

support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq

seek regime change in Iraq.

One's passive the other proactive.

I'll choose proactive seeing how no one else wanted to step up to the plate.

[Holden McGroin]

Why would one "support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq" if one were not seeking regime change?

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Why would one "support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq" if one were not seeking regime change?

Ummm... "We broke it, we bought it".

It would have been billions cheaper to pay someone else to break it.

[Yeager]

Once they learned what it was the source had to say — that Saddam Hussein did not have the capability to wage nuclear war or have an active WMD program, Drumheller says, "They stopped being interested in the intelligence.
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easy enough, the source doesnt tell you what you want to hear, you negate the source.  Whats so hard to understand about that?  Hussein had it coming in so many ways.....Im surprised you leftwobbles are still chewing on this rotten bone.  Hussein had it coming and I hope he drops dead at the end of a rope.

[Sandman]

Oh yeah... the bone is an old one, but the body bags are still coming in at Dover.

[DiabloTX]

Originally posted by Sandman
Oh yeah... the bone is an old one, but the body bags are still coming in at Dover.

Well, at least they stopped coming in at various land fills around Iraq before the war.

[Sandman]

Whoopee.

[Toad]

Ok, all this stuff keeps trickling out.

The Dems are the opposition party. There are 231 Republicans and 201 Democrats with 1 Independent.

If there's fire under all this smoke, why isn't there some action? The Republicans don't have that much of a majority and I feel sure that some Republicans would be just as pissed as anyone else if there's substance to this stuff.

Again, Conyers can't get anything going towards an impeachment investigation/action. There's currently about 28 co-sponsors, ~ 14% of the Democrats.

Where's the opposition party?