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« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2006, 01:00:10 AM »
Actually Dive brakes prevented the aircraft from exceeding its speed limits it has little to do with Compression.

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« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2006, 03:49:16 AM »
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The RAF is not allowed any 1944 or later free rides.


With the exception of AH Typh.

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« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2006, 04:07:23 AM »
Thought it was researched and ageed the Tiffy in AH2 was most lilkely from 1943 also.

Always found it strange -
The two main (US, LW) planesets have perked and free 1945 planes.
Even some of the smaller planesets have free 1945 planes.

Third biggest in the game (RAF) has NO 1945 rides whatsoever.
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« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2006, 05:03:11 AM »
that could be addressed with the intro of the Meteor III or Spit F.21

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« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2006, 08:56:33 AM »
Or a properly performing Mk XIV....
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2006, 10:09:31 AM »
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Or a properly performing Mk XIV....


Even at XIV at 21lbs boost is still July 1944.

As Furball said the only 2 are the Meteor and F.21 . Probably more chance of getting the F.21 than the Meteor, but both are very slim chances.
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« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2006, 10:37:35 AM »
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Always found it strange -
The two main (US, LW) planesets have perked and free 1945 planes.
Even some of the smaller planesets have free 1945 planes.

Third biggest in the game (RAF) has NO 1945 rides whatsoever.


Let's see, the Americans have the perked F4U-4 and the P-47N. Germany has the perked and virtually useless Ta-152H. The Soviets are represented by the 3 gun version of the La-7.

One should note that the P-47N was in squadron service before 1945, but didn't actually see combat until 1945.

I don't even count the F4U-1C as this was nothing more than a rearmed F4U-1A of 1943 vintage.

The 2 gun LA-7 is a 1944 aircraft.

I suspect that the lack of Brit 1945 rides is the result of few new models were introduced in 1945 that saw combat. Even the Spit F. Mk.21 wasn't cleared for combat until just weeks before the war ended, and only a little over 120 were manufactured. I wouldn't mind the Mk.21, but it would be perked for certain. As it is now, I don't see any real justification for perking the M.XIV any longer. Unperked, I doubt it would see more use than the Mk.VIII gets now.

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« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2006, 11:20:51 AM »
"Virtually useless"?  

You are being kind.  

I'd actually support unperking everything, and just removing the Ta-152.  Maybe they can use the model for something that doesn't suck quite as bad, like a Brewster Buffalo.

The La-7 and Spit 16 perform like perk planes anyway, may as well unperk the perk planes and add a little variety.

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« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2006, 12:06:49 PM »
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Thought it was researched and ageed the Tiffy in AH2 was most lilkely from 1943 also.

Always found it strange -
The two main (US, LW) planesets have perked and free 1945 planes.
Even some of the smaller planesets have free 1945 planes.

Third biggest in the game (RAF) has NO 1945 rides whatsoever.
Kev, every single time you post, it's the exact same thing.  We get it, ok?  lol.

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« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2006, 12:32:34 PM »
INmho, I think the spit 8 or the 9 are the best dogfighters in the business, think the 9 just shades it, I'm still trying to research what the best alt for the 9 is.
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« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2006, 02:56:36 PM »
They don't need to unperk the Ta152 they just need to do several things.

Fill the primary fuselage tanks with fuel before the wing tanks which were long range bladders that WERE NOT self sealing and were only used like said for long range flights.

Secondly give it a better turning circle,since it was afterall one of the better turning planes of the LW ,and give it its aceleration......

Well...since that ain't happening any time soon or in the near or far future or in the end of all living things on this planet, galaxy, and universe..... Just delete the friggin thing and give us a D-9 '45 or a D-11 with Low Alt boost. (400 mph Doras@SL  mmmm)

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« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2006, 03:03:26 PM »
I'd rather have the Buffalo.

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« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2006, 03:15:01 PM »
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Kev, every single time you post, it's the exact same thing. We get it, ok? lol.


He posts the same thing opver and over going back a couple of years:

'Its unfair that the LW have a '45 plane and the RAF doesn't' or a variation 'Its unfair that there are more LW  planes then there are Spitfires'

Then there's his classic 'HT hates Spitfires...'

Only 4 perk planes of the currect perk planes should still be perked:

F4U-4
Tempest
Me 262
Me 163

There's no point in perking the rest. Its seems HTC have abandoned the perk system any way. Besided perking the Chop the perk system has been stagnate. At the time it was introduced I had thought it would have been more dynamic in that as early and more representative aircraft got modeled then the later and rarer planes would get perked, even if the perk prices were low. As it stands now the perk system is virtually pointless. Personally, I like to see more stuff perked but that aint going to happen with all the whining that goes on around here...

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« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2006, 03:36:20 PM »
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Originally posted by Glasses
They don't need to unperk the Ta152 they just need to do several things.

Fill the primary fuselage tanks with fuel before the wing tanks which were long range bladders that WERE NOT self sealing and were only used like said for long range flights.

Secondly give it a better turning circle,since it was afterall one of the better turning planes of the LW ,and give it its aceleration......

Well...since that ain't happening any time soon or in the near or far future or in the end of all living things on this planet, galaxy, and universe..... Just delete the friggin thing and give us a D-9 '45 or a D-11 with Low Alt boost. (400 mph Doras@SL  mmmm)


You already have a 1945 D9.
The AH2 model at its boost didn't see service until Jan 45 at the earliest.
The AvA team uses Dec 44, but only because it was being deployed by the end of Dec 44 (they wanted originally to have it as an Aug 44 date!!!).

D11 -
Did it actually ever even enter service!!!
It may have gone into production but never seen anything apart from they were slated to be assigned to a Unit Leader Training School.
Possibly only 7 prototypes built? If so how rare a never seen combat plane you after?

There was probably a D20 in someones mind somewhere, maybe you'd like aslo, or the D21 scribbled on the back of a beermat in some Berlin bar.
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« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2006, 04:34:18 PM »
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Thought it was researched and ageed the Tiffy in AH2 was most lilkely from 1943 also.


Quite the opposite. But if you are happier this way ...