Poor Rush

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Nash
Mpphht. Yeah, okay.

RUSH LIMBAUGH runs addicts through your so-called ringer.

K?

and you are doing what exactly?  (keeping in mind your past)

[Murdr]

Originally posted by Nash
Mpphht. Yeah, okay.

RUSH LIMBAUGH runs addicts through your so-called ringer.

K?

Making comments on the radio when the topic comes up.....Trying (and failing) for years to come up with a criminal prosicution.  

Sorry, Im not seeing the parallel.

[Shuckins]

Let me put it another way...You don't practice what you preach.

An attitude of smug satisfaction about the suffering and misfortune of another does not reflect kindly on the holder of that attitude.

[Shuckins]

By the way rpm, the AMA posted the results of a scientific study recently in which they stated that there is no evidence that smoking marijuana has any medicinal benefit whatsoever.

I don't care whether Rush is a conservative or a democrat...I take no satisfaction in the suffering of others...whatever their political stripe.

Nevertheless there is a vast difference between addiction to prescription drugs and addiction to illegal drugs stemming from thrill-seeking.  One is involuntary...the other is not.

As I said earlier, some of those who pride themselves on their sensitivity actually have convictions that are only superficial.

[Murdr]

Originally posted by Shuckins
Let me put it another way...You don't practice what you preach.

Neither does Rush....If you consider doing coke/pot/crack/ect.  recreationally, the same as becoming addicted to legal drugs through medical treatment.  Guess its clear who equates the two, and who doesnt.

[Nash]

Huh?

Yeah, I was a junkie. And so is Rush.

So what? I went about cleaning my act up, and Rush sat there day after day in the booth, high on percocet or whatever, telling you that addicts are the scourge of the earth.

Orginally posted by Shuckins

Let me put it another way...You don't practice what you preach.

An attitude of smug satisfaction about the suffering and misfortune of another does not reflect kindly on the holder of that attitude.

So get this Shuckins: I don't practice what I preach.... because I don't preach.

I had a problem, and I got rid of it. Never once did I pretend not to have a problem, while at the same time telling anyone who did that they were dirtbag criminals... like Rush did.

And there's no "smug satisfaction" involved. It's just a case of someone who takes a paycheck for lying to everyone, lying to himself. No wonder he's so Golly-geened marvelous at it. He even had himself fooled.

He's a rotten man.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by Shuckins
An attitude of smug satisfaction about the suffering and misfortune of another does not reflect kindly on the holder of that attitude.

An eye for an eye

[SOB]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
Those same people that are speaking out against rush would more than likely fully support a group of medicinal marjaiana users that got cought growing pot for medicinal reasons.

I assume I'm in the "speaking out against rush" group, so I'll respond.  Marijuana should be legal for medicinal or recreational use, IMO.  It is, however, not legal in most places in the US.  If you break the law by growing it, then being arrested is just one of the possible side effects - you rolls the dice, you takes your chances.  Now, if we're talking growing marijuana in a state in which it is legal for you to do so, and then the feds come knocking on your door, you're damned right I'd be supporting the individual.  In either case, I'd say it's a safe bet that these hypothetical medicinal marijuana users would be advocates of the free use of the drug, rather than railing against anyone who breaks the law by using illicit drugs...and that would be a key distinction.

this is one thing that is true about the left.  The man can appologize.  He can pay the price.... but if they don't agree with him politically they will not stop with him untill they have run him through the ringer.  It doesn't matter if he is emulating one of their causes, if he is a conservative he's no longer a victom.

That's a nice demeaning generalization of an entire group of people, a vast majority of whom you don't know personally.  Did you "ditto" this from Rush?  Are there any other groups of people you'd care to cast disparaging generalizations about?  Would you agree or disagree that this makes you look small-minded?

[Murdr]

"I mean, if something like the speed limit is 70, and I tell people I don't want you driving faster than 70; you're risking your life; you're risking other people's lives; you're wasting fuel and I got caught speeding for 95 miles an hour, was I wrong that you shouldn't be speeding? No, I was the one wrong, but it didn't change the value of right and wrong simply because I didn't abide by it at a particular time."
-Rush Limbaugh

[Hangtime]

Herniated l-5.. 40 years now. I know pain. I know drugs. Guess I could say I know addiction.. but I refuse to give up air and smoke; despite my addiction to it.

I tried all the drugs.. and even got creative with the combo's. Like eagl, discovered they just don't work (on pain).. for whatever reason. Didn't like life in a diminished mental state, so I just stopped taking 'em. Never considered that I had a 'physical' addiction.. and never suffered 'withdrawl' from the concoctions when I gave up the attempts at pain relief thru the lid of a bottle of pills.

But cigarettes... now there's a heluva addictive drug.

So, I guess I'm a hippocrite too.

know what?

Russ Limbaugh is a liar, a hippocrite and despite my addiction to cigarettes (yes, itsa drug) I can proudly still say he's guite a few rungs down the hippocrite ladder from me or the homeless crack head on the corner.

[Shuckins]

Nash...my man...you "preach" on these boards every night...without fail.  Raging, sulfurous, fire-breathing, hell-raising sermons....pointing out to all the "sinners" the error of their ways.

You may have missed your calling in life.

I'm glad you cleaned up your act...bully for you...but you are a unique individual.  We are all unique...and few have the internal fortitude to kick a powerful addiction, unaided.

My dad thinks the use of drugs such as heroine, cocaine, and crack is wrong...even though he was addicted to prescription drugs himself.

Does that make him a hypocrite?  Absolutely not...for the two are NOT the same...and you know it.

[Nash]

Originally posted by Hangtime
... I can proudly still say he's guite a few rungs down the hippocrite ladder from me or the homeless crack head on the corner.

Hmm...

I know a few smokers of cigarettes. I can't recall ever hearing any one of them deny that they smoke.... while at the same time saying that smoking is dirty and degenerate.

I've also run across a few crack heads....

I've never heard one say, fresh off a hit, "yo man, crack'll kill ya, and we gotta do more as a society to lock up people like me."

I'm just not following you Hang.

[rpm]

Originally posted by Shuckins
By the way rpm, the AMA posted the results of a scientific study recently in which they stated that there is no evidence that smoking marijuana has any medicinal benefit whatsoever.

I don't care whether Rush is a conservative or a democrat...I take no satisfaction in the suffering of others...whatever their political stripe.

Nevertheless there is a vast difference between addiction to prescription drugs and addiction to illegal drugs stemming from thrill-seeking.  One is involuntary...the other is not.

As I said earlier, some of those who pride themselves on their sensitivity actually have convictions that are only superficial.

Medical Marijuana: Bipartisan House Coalition Challenges FDA Medical Marijuana Finding 4/28/06
 
A week after the US Food and Drug Adminstration (FDA) issued a one-page opinion claiming marijuana has no proven medical uses -- a position that ignores the much more comprehensive analysis done by the National Academy of Science's Institute of Medicine in 1999 -- a bipartisan group of 24 House members led by Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) has called on the agency to explain its reasoning and offer scientific proof for its position.

"Despite the fact that you are responding to a scientific question, your press release failed to provide any scientific expertise," the representatives wrote in a Thursday letter to FDA Acting Commissioner Andrew von Eschenbach. "We call on you to show us the purported scientific evidence for the basis of this response. There is no evidence that you have new scientific proof or that you oversaw clinical trials. It perplexes us that even though the FDA is responsible for protecting public health, the agency has failed to respond adequately to the IOM's findings seven years after the study's publication date."

Last week, the FDA issued a one-page press release declaring that "no sound scientific studies supported medical use of marijuana for treatment in the United States, and no animal or human data supported the safety or efficacy of marijuana for general medical use." The press release did not point to any studies that supported its contention, and it has become an object of controversy among medical marijuana proponents and scientists who have actually done research on marijuana.

Hinchey accused the agency of playing politics with people's lives. "We saw it with the agency's decision on the emergency contraceptive, Plan B, and we're seeing it again with medical marijuana: the FDA is making decisions based on politics instead of science," Hinchey said. "The FDA should not be a political entity. Rather, the agency should be in the business of ensuring all Americans have access to safe and effective drugs, including medical marijuana."

You know why marijuana is not approved by the FDA? There's no marijuana lobby to pay off government officials.

I have no sympathy for Limbaugh. He's a hypocrite of the highest degree, right up there with TV preachers and professional politicians. He didn't seek help from his doctor to change meds, he seeked help from his maid to get a fix. There is your vast difference.

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by Nash
Hmm...

I know a few smokers of cigarettes. I can't recall ever hearing any one of them deny that they smoke.... while at the same time saying that smoking is dirty and degenerate.

I've also run across a few crack heads....

I've never heard one say, fresh off a hit, "yo man, crack'll kill ya, and we gotta do more as a society to lock up people like me."

I'm just not following you Hang.

Possibly you should go out in the community and pitch in... cause you sure don't know any crak heads. Particularly crak heads that lost everything.. and still hit the pipe because they just can't stop. Being addicted (as you know) doesn't mean you don't know your addicted.

[Nash]

Originally posted by Shuckins
Does that make him a hypocrite?  Absolutely not...for the two are NOT the same...and you know it.

Trust me dude....

Addiction is addiction is addiction.

Weed, demerol, junk, coke, booze.... wotev.

Addiction is addiction. No script paper, no nothin'. When yer hooked, yer hooked.

And Rush is. And that's okay....

But the point is... He is a gawdamned hypocrite. I just don't get what is so hard to understand here.