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Offline Urchin

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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2006, 08:44:25 PM »
Yea, that'd work great.  

****ing kill messages would scroll the damn text buffer.  "So and So got a kill.  XXX1 got assist.  XXX2 got assist.  XXX3 got assist..... XXXn got assist.

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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2006, 09:07:37 PM »
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Geez, the only way you can get cherry picked...is if you fly like a cherry. :)


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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2006, 09:09:17 PM »
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Yea, that'd work great.  

****ing kill messages would scroll the damn text buffer.  "So and So got a kill.  XXX1 got assist.  XXX2 got assist.  XXX3 got assist..... XXXn got assist.
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2006, 09:10:16 PM »
Yea E25280 but the server would have to say "John shot down in a SPit5, by Mark in a Spit16, but that wasnt the good fight, that was Bill in an F6F"

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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2006, 09:10:53 PM »
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Heck, what's wrong with cherry picking? I have no problem acknowledging a good cherry pick. Geez, the only way you can get cherry picked...is if you fly like a cherry. :)


If you have no problem acknowledging a "good" cherry pick, then I'd say odds are good you very rarely get picked.  

The next logical assumption would be that this is because you rarely fight, and mostly cherrypick yourself.

The only way you get cherrypicked.... is if you grow a pair of balls and fight for a change.

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2006, 09:16:32 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2006, 09:36:29 PM »
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some of us who dont fly spit 16s or La7s, and fly early p47s or p40s or crappy early 109s, have to cherry pick to MANAGE at least a kill per sortie.... I dont fly the uber planes for a reason-and that reason is to swoop in, in a pile of junk and shoot down a late model, sleek, flying machine

Nice excuse doesn't work.  I've seen plenty of guys fighting and winning in these planes and not cherry picking.  Lose you perch and your crutch and maybe you'll do better to.

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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2006, 10:18:19 PM »
Urchin...

I fight. If I didn't...I would never "die". :)

For me, cherry picking is like vulching. It requires that the person on the receiving end do something stupid. If someone catches me flying like a cherry...I am not going to object to him making cherry pie out of me...I would deserve it. :)
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2006, 10:27:02 PM »
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oh no you got it completely wrong man. I was talking about hawco the other day when I was low in a 190A5 and there were about 3 people on me and I manage to get away from the p51 and it took awhile for hawco to kill me and he was in a spit8 and he's going to give me a salute. I didnt say nothing. I usually dont say anything when they do that.


Sorry Revor for the miss understanding.  I applogize.  I know my squadie and i were talking about how he cleared your 6 one night while i was on with him, and i thought that was the occasion you were talking about.  Once again sorry about the miss understanding

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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2006, 10:37:00 PM »
Depends on your definition of fighting I suppose.  If you and 6 buddies making bore n zoom passes at a lone enemy is "fighting" then I guess you fight.

But that 1 guy had 3 options.  He could

A. Do like you are doing, and fly with a pack of friendlies hoping for the opportunity to beat them to 1 kill a sortie.

B.  Fly alone, or with a significantly smaller group of friendlies against a horde of enemies.

Or C.  Not fly at all.

Sure, B is a "stupid" choice.  But A is mindnumbingly boring.  I guess the fact that you can put up with it makes you a better, "smarter" man than I, but it has never been a palatable option for me.

So I roll against the horde, hoping I get maybe trick one or two lemmings into chasing me, and praying I can kill em fast enough that the rest of the pack can't realize what is going on.

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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2006, 10:52:47 PM »
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The MA is one big bowl of cherries :)

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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2006, 10:55:53 PM »
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For me, cherry picking requires that the person on the receiving end do something stupid. If someone catches me flying like a cherry...I am not going to object to him making cherry pie out of me...I would deserve it. :)


That's a fact. New pilots in WW2 were notoriously cherry picked, they lacked the knowledge and experience to realize they were under attack either when engaged or just simply while flying formation. It is very, very hard to purely cherry pick a truly good stick in AH unless his SA is completely overwhelmed or you, the picker, make an especially excellent shot...

Keep in mind, if the picker isn't descriminating at all in his attacks, just by chance half his picks will actually be saving a teammate. If he's a wise and discriminating picker far, far more than half, something approaching the vast majority of his picks will be saving his teammates. A good picker is nice to have around because he will only choose to pick if his friendly is losing, and refrain if he's winning...He's kind of like a wingman for the whole furball, an angel on your shoulder so to speak...



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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2006, 11:16:03 PM »
It isn't really that hard to cherrypick a "good" stick.

It depends on how many other planes are on him.  If there is just 1 plane, yea, it is going to take some doing.  If there is 2 or 3, especially if he is actively fighting them, it is quite easy to cherrypick.  

You just wait till the other guys box him in and get him slow, then you swoop in and "save" them.

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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2006, 11:25:26 PM »
Urchin...

I fly like I flew tonite. Started hunting buffs at 22. Only found 1..so hadda be satisfied with killin' fighters (btw, went there alone). Made 2 cherry pies on the way home.

Went back to 22. You were there. No cherries. But, I did find a couple of guys that were clueless. :)

Heck, my own damned squaddies get pisted at me because show so little interest in "teamwork". :D

Oh...BTW, if I find a fight like you mention about (7 v 1)....I go find another fight. Stuff like that bores me to tears. :)
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Re: People saluting you after a cherry pick
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2006, 11:33:42 PM »
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That literally pisses me off. There's nothing like you fighting someone in a good fight and then some jerk comes along and cherry picks you then have the nerve to give you a salute like he dueled you on his own. I'm like what the hell did you do to earn a right of a salute?


When you're done fuming, consider this possibility..

You're turning and burning with my squadmate, I'm in a fight, but I get a kill there and my squaddie is calling for me to clear his six... I know you've been giving him a good hard fight, so after I clear you, I give you a salute.

Happens all the time... You don't know who that cherrypicker is.  Often, he was called in by the other guy.  I think you've forgotten that people have squad vox, and that squads are... you know... teams...  Pick a fight with a member of a team and you risk getting the whole team on ya.

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