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« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2006, 08:06:59 AM »
Well, Bruno, we agree to slightly disagree. Anyway, this you brought from your link:
"C.F. Shores, H. Ring, & W.N. Hess, Fighters Over Tunisia, Neville Spearman, 1975"

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« Reply #46 on: May 08, 2006, 01:33:54 PM »
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Its hard to find and relatively expensive but worth it IMHO...

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« Reply #47 on: May 08, 2006, 08:18:22 PM »
Bruno, could you clarify this statement . . .

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On this occassion the Ta-152s were attacked by 109s at 8000m and never made contact with the enemy. No Ta-152s were damaged but they were forced to scatter.

Not that it makes much difference other than it confuses me.

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« Reply #48 on: May 08, 2006, 09:11:14 PM »
The 109 pilots were unfamiliar with the Ta-152 profile and attacked them thinking they were enemy aircraft.

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« Reply #49 on: May 08, 2006, 09:44:55 PM »
Thanks -- guess confusion gets around.

Would have hated to explain that one to Goering . . .
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« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2006, 01:04:22 AM »
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The 109 pilots were unfamiliar with the Ta-152 profile and attacked them thinking they were enemy aircraft.


Not the 1st time -

During the BoB Spits fired on Hurricanes, the Hurris thought they were captured Spits and returned fire.

Became known as "The Battle of Barking Creek".
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« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2006, 03:16:53 AM »
From Bruno:
"Fighters Over Tunisia
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Its hard to find and relatively expensive but worth it IMHO..."

There's another one I think, Fighters over the desert, also available in German, with a title like Luftkampf zwischen Sand und Sonne (approximately,- from memory). Is that the same one republished or is it a different project?
(Been on the hunt for it with no luck)

Oh Kev, if you're into the BoB, I recall a description of the Battle of Barking Creek from Al Deere's "Nine Lives".
The best read I have about the structure, command, problems and so on is John Ray's Battle of Britain. Just Splendid.
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« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2006, 03:51:22 AM »
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Luftkampf zwischen Sand und Sonne (approximately,- from memory). Is that the same one republished or is it a different project?


Luftkampf zwischen Sand und Sonne is the German edition of Fighters over the desert: The air battles in the Western Desert. June 1940 to December 1942 by Shores and Ring original published in 1969. Its 256 pages (US edition). If you want to read about Marseille this is where to find info.

Fighters over Tunisia is also by Shores and Ring (and of course Hess) but was published in 1975 and is 491 pages.

Both are great reads but can be expensive.

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« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2006, 09:32:20 AM »
THX, now I owe you one ;)

Do you have them? Tunisia is my particular interest (Algeria-Tunisia), but I am poor of material about it apart from autobiographies that relate to it.
D.Smith, Neville Duke, Anthony Bartley, T.E.Jonsson "Mackie" Evans and perhaps more.
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« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2006, 09:40:28 AM »
Yes I own copies of both in English...

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« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2006, 08:00:02 PM »
Awwwffffrrrr...bastige :D

I am particularly interested in the 22nd of november of 1942.
Algiers-Annaba (Bone).
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)