When is Ki-100 out.

[Saxman]

Germans tried that on early 190s and very quickly abandoned the streamlined cowls as well.

[Loddar]

We never get more planes or vehicles. HT think we already have enough to play and prefer to move the office.

[Kazaa]

Originally posted by Bombardy
My attempts to hijack this thread and turn it into a PRO-Mitsubishi JM2 Raiden thread are not working out like I planned...........

LOOK, get on the farking bandwagon and GIVE IT UP for the J2M Raiden!!!

seriously, here are just some of the cool features of this amazing aircraft:

1) 2x 20 mm Type 99-II Mk 4 cannon in each wing. Ammo: 200 rpg approx
A 3rd oblique mounted cannon in some interceptors could fire upward as it passed underneath a bomber.

ohhh yea baby!!!

2) or 4x20mm with 200 rounds per gun mounted in the wings

3) 1,820 hp engine.......in a "uglier than thou" nose!

4) 3,838 ft/min climb......woo hoo!!!! bring on those high alt bombers!!!

5) Top speed in excess of 382 mph (could be as high as 400+ if based on US Army tests!

6) A good example of a dedicated interceptor of japanese origin




 

This kid is soooooooo funny, great I vote for the JM2 as well !!!

If the Ki84 was the best JP fighter of WW2, which I agree on 100% ! Then why not get some more 84 variants ?

The Ki84-1b would be nice 4x20mm (dual cowl mounted) JP shredders, woot got my vote

[Kazaa]

Does anyone have historical data on the top end speed of the Ki-84-1a ?

"Some people are still disappointed in what they feel that it lacks in top end speed as compared to some historical data."

Quote from Soda's Aircraft Evaluation Pages.

Kaz

[Jester]

Originally posted by Sikboy
Judy Judy Judy.

-Sik

I am with Sik on this one. The Japanese forces already have their BEST Fighters and Hi-Level Bomber - what they need now are better Dive Bombers and Torpedo Planes.

We Need the D4Y JUDY and B6N JILL. The KATE & VAL are just too slow and too underarmed to survive late war scenarios.



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[Kazaa]

Originally posted by Kazaa
Does anyone have historical data on the top end speed of the Ki-84-1a ?

"Some people are still disappointed in what they feel that it lacks in top end speed as compared to some historical data."

Quote from Soda's Aircraft Evaluation Pages.

Kaz

Hey guys, I just spent some time looking for data on the Ki-84-Ia engine performance in other threads.

Seems that the Ki-84-Ia had a few problems with engine reliability.

All in all it's still a great ride no matter what, this must be why there is so much debate on the Ki-84-Ia top end speed.

P.S: I will have to read into the subject some more.

Kaz

[Jester]

Kazaa,

The main problems with Japanese aircraft engine reliability was:

1. Low manufacturing tolerences leading to breakdowns, low hours and less than designed Horsepower.

2. Low quality fuel. Much was not refined as well as it could be - especially later in the war after the supply was about cut off by US Submarines.

3. Low Octaine Fuel. Japanese fuel was like 83 octaine IIRC. Allied aircraft ran 100+ octaine fuel with some reports of fuel going high as 150 octaine.

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[Krusty]

I don't know about the Jill, but the Judy is a mid-war (not late-war) plane. It would be easily caught if it was chased, but still it's better than the Val!!!

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Krusty
I don't know about the Jill, but the Judy is a mid-war (not late-war) plane. It would be easily caught if it was chased, but still it's better than the Val!!!

The Judy would be the fastest divebomber in game (well, not counting the JABOs)  and about 90-100 mph faster than the Val. In scenario terms that's pretty staggering. In the events and scenarios I've participated in, the Vals and Kates can get through F4Fs by going into a shallow dive and getting up to a pretty good clip. I think that Judy's will stand a decent chance against Hellcats and hogs. At least it won't be the death certificate when you are told you have to fly one (as the Val and Kate are in mid-late war scenarios).

-Sik

[Treize69]

Do either of them have a dorsal gun? Just wondering. Looks like the bottom one may have either a single gun covering the low-6, but it could be a brake too.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Treize69
Do either of them have a dorsal gun? Just wondering. Looks like the bottom one may have either a single gun covering the low-6, but it could be a brake too.

I believe the MOST either of them had (Depending on varient) was a single 13mm Dorsal gun. More a decoration than a defense, but still something for a player to do after being shot down in an Event.

-Sik

[Jester]

Originally posted by Treize69
Do either of them have a dorsal gun? Just wondering. Looks like the bottom one may have either a single gun covering the low-6, but it could be a brake too.

Both of them did.

(Depending on Variant)
JUDY had two fixed forward firing 7.7mm's and had another 7.7 in the dorsal and a 13mm in the ventral.
JILL early versions has the same as the JUDY - later versions had a 13mm gun that could be removed and used either in the dorsal or ventral positions.

I didn't put it in my other post but a better Torpedo Bomber might be the B7A GRACE. It is both better armed, faster and carries more ord.

Two wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model 2 cannon and one flexible rear-firing 13 mm Type 2 machine-gun (late production B7A2).

Originally posted by Krusty
I don't know about the Jill, but the Judy is a mid-war (not late-war) plane. It would be easily caught if it was chased, but still it's better than the Val!!!

Depending on the variant you are talking about. The JUDY first went to sea during the Battle of Midway (June 42) as a Fast Carrier Recon Plane. That version is entirely differnt than the Inline-engined Dive Bomber version that came later on in 43. The Radial engined Dive Bomber Version didn't come out till 44 IIRC.

Grant you your last statement is 110% on target - would be like night and day against the VAL. The Heavier ord load can carry up to a 1000lbs bomb or 3x 500 lbs bombs plus the better defensive armament would make a big difference also.

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[Treize69]

And GULL WINGS!

Bring on the flying freaks!!!