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« Reply #90 on: May 11, 2006, 02:40:36 PM »
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Uhhh ... an awful lot of kills in WW2 happened when one guy didn't see the other sneaking in on him.
So? still doesn't change things.  LOL

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« Reply #91 on: May 11, 2006, 02:56:37 PM »
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I wonder why every comment you make is of the neener, neener child variety can you think no deeper? oh well:aok


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« Reply #92 on: May 11, 2006, 05:27:25 PM »
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Yeah I hate those skilless fights where the other guy knows I'm there and we have to fight.:rolleyes: :lol


well there is not much "skill" in any of this-...like airwarrior, the fun and responsiblity of doing ones job as a video pilot can best be realized in scenarios

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« Reply #93 on: May 11, 2006, 05:47:36 PM »
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well... you could also petition to have the offline drones have their own BB where they would give out polite answers and agreement no matter what drivel was posted.

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« Reply #94 on: May 11, 2006, 06:12:46 PM »
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So? still doesn't change things.  LOL


Yeah - it does - you're implying that sneaking up on someone requires no skill.

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« Reply #95 on: May 12, 2006, 07:37:37 AM »
I didn't imply it, I am saying it.  What is the difference between sneaking up on someone and flying offline against the drones.  OK so it takes the bare minimum of skills needed to play this game.  Congrats.  LOL

I never understand why people play a Air Combat game but avoid fighting other people.

IMO - If he said something like - "Once in a while it's fun when..." or "Sometimes when I..."  but to say
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I still think the best kills for me , and this goes back to AW on genie, the ones that make me feel nice and fuzzy, are the ones where the target doesnt know Im there...
 I mean so basically he is saying he has the most fun not fighting LOL.:lol

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well there is not much "skill" in any of this-...like airwarrior, the fun and responsiblity of doing ones job as a video pilot can best be realized in scenarios
How much do you get paid to do "ones Job"?  Are you saving the world from terrorism doing "ones job"?  Is the world a safer place because you are doing "ones job"?  LOLH :rofl  

What?  Scenarios where you sneak up and kill people LOLH.  I will never understand people like you nark, but hey it's your 15 bucks - carry on.:aok
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« Reply #96 on: May 12, 2006, 09:24:46 AM »
I like to fly 190s-they dont furball all that well vs all the spit 16s and las...so I like bouncing the nice stall planes and rolling out-no biggie

I dont get the terriorism quote and unfourtunately that is slowly becomming my job now , drug work is being phased out for wmd infiltration

some scenarios dont have radar and very crappy visibility (bulge in particular)-sled and I snuck up on a 109 the other day in the italy scenario-in a early p47-believe it, it was kinda fun too.

could you put some lol's in your post-you have 1 or 2 lines missing them
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« Reply #97 on: May 12, 2006, 09:36:26 AM »
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« Reply #98 on: May 12, 2006, 09:40:16 AM »
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And we used to have a CIA F-16 pilot..


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« Reply #99 on: May 12, 2006, 11:31:24 AM »
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I didn't imply it, I am saying it.  What is the difference between sneaking up on someone and flying offline against the drones.  OK so it takes the bare minimum of skills needed to play this game.  Congrats.  LOL

I never understand why people play a Air Combat game but avoid fighting other people.

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There's a vast difference between avoiding combat and taking advantage of another player's inattentiveness. I'm really surprised you can't see that. You're pretty much applying a WW1 mindset to WW2 air combat ... that was proven not to work well about 60 or so years back.

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« Reply #100 on: May 12, 2006, 12:20:14 PM »
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There's a vast difference between avoiding combat and taking advantage of another player's inattentiveness. I'm really surprised you can't see that. You're pretty much applying a WW1 mindset to WW2 air combat ... that was proven not to work well about 60 or so years back.


DOK WTF are you talking about.  We are playing a game, you are not a real fighter pilot.  LOLH

Avoiding fights in a game or sneaking up on planes is like saying your going to play Monopoly but you aren't going to roll the dice.  Whats the point?

WWI, WWII  LOLH :lol

I play a game where the thrill is in the fight, you guys obviously play a game where it's get a kill with as little fight as necessary.  Personally I never liked cherry picking much anyway.

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« Reply #101 on: May 12, 2006, 12:40:56 PM »
I find that in a massive furball, you can't help but kill people when they don't notice you.  I wouldn't call it cherry picking, but you're in there twisting and turning, dodging and killing, and you will frequently see some guy turn right in front of you onto one of your countrymen.  That's an opportunity kill, and I'll never pass one up, but it is obviously unfair in the sense that the other guy never sees it coming.  If he did, after all, he wouldn't have turned right in front of me.

In those cases, I do think situational awareness and the ability to adapt quickly inform one's ability to "cherry pick."

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« Reply #102 on: May 12, 2006, 12:46:52 PM »
Something tells me they are not talking about fighting in a massive furball.  I can't remember the last time they ran the Furball Scenario LOLH:rofl

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« Reply #103 on: May 12, 2006, 12:47:07 PM »
My rough working definition of a cherrypick is someone swooping into a 1v1 or 2v1 on Xv1 (on the side of the X).  

A swirling melee of planes will have planes getting blindsided almost by definition... I doubt anyones SA is good enough to keep track of all the enemies and shoot at someone, you naturally stop paying attention to your bellybutton when you are trying to fill someone elses with lead.

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« Reply #104 on: May 12, 2006, 01:15:22 PM »
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I play a game where the thrill is in the fight, you guys obviously play a game where it's get a kill with as little fight as necessary.  Personally I never liked cherry picking much anyway.


Bet you're against deer hunting too, cuz them quadrapeds can't shoot back. :D

I really enjoy bouncing a flight of enemas and killing someone right in front of their wingman and zooming away afterwards. Sorry. Maybe its a part of the game you don't enjoy, but so what. I guess engaging at 1-on-3 odds is "avoiding combat" if I do so with an altitude advantage. Awww, shucks and gee-willikers.


And ... this whole "avoiding a fight" rant ... seriously ... why *should* I play your game. I am so bored with having to avoid being HO'd and rammed on every merge. And that's what furballs are like now. You can keep it.