Define uber. I am not very good, but I seem to get a lot of kills (for me) in a F4u-1d, so is that uber? Yes, I cherry pick - I also sometimes get low and slow with those flaps. I'm learning. Pretty good survival rate, too - for me. How about the 205? I went one tour getting a lot of kills (for me) in a 205. Spit XVI are a pain in the axx, so I'm trying to learn how to fight them. Think I have more kills of them then they do of me - barely. Again, I'm not very good, so are they still uber? Same with La7. The only "uber" plane I'm aware of is the 262 - I can't catch it, and it can always catch me - but it usually can't turn with me, so SA is my main method of surviving one of them. Sorry for the long winded post, but I really don't understand these perk threads.