Author Topic: Mexico to get Sukhoi Su-27's (Read 1256 times)

CMC Airboss · « **on:** May 13, 2006, 11:14:48 PM »

The Mexican Navy is purchasing Su-27's as "strategic surveillance" platorms for its fleet defense unit.

Mexico selects Su-27

eagl · « **Reply #1 on:** May 13, 2006, 11:29:57 PM »

I think they're not entirely clear on what the word "strategic" means. For the price of 12 SU-27s, they could probably get a couple real surveilance platforms with 10 times the "strategic surveilance" capability. Of course then they wouldn't be able to say they have modern front line fighters either... My opinion is that it's much more about image and beating the joneses than it is about military capability.

If they wanted any kind of real military capability upgrade, they'd get a couple of those mini-awacs based on a regional jet, and lease a half dozen old F-16s with AMRAAM and datalinks to ground and airborn surveilance radars. But actual capability doesn't look as sexy at an airshow...

Toad · « **Reply #2 on:** May 13, 2006, 11:39:55 PM »

10 of anything isn't even in the game. Gotta wonder who they're trying to impress other than themselves.

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2006, 11:41:55 PM »

I believe the Indian airforce uses the SU-27 as a sort of AWACS plane.

WldThing · « **Reply #4 on:** May 13, 2006, 11:43:18 PM »

and whu the hell is the mexicann navy goin g to surveillancize? CUBA?!#

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #5 on:** May 13, 2006, 11:46:11 PM »

The drug trade WildThang.

WldThing · « **Reply #6 on:** May 13, 2006, 11:51:26 PM »

o yesa thei've had an extraordnry time surveillaincing drug trafficking... buying sophitcistated planes somehow gives them a reason to spend that hjard earned drug money., i love mexico! suckers. ..

eagl · « **Reply #7 on:** May 13, 2006, 11:56:13 PM »

It's in part a political statement of solidarity with their latin american brothers down south. They're buying stuff that's compatible with cuban, venezualian, etc. equipment. They're saying that they are part of south america, not north america. They're making the point that they are not NATO and couldn't care less about NATO interoperability. They're defining themselves as part of a group that is distinctly separate from anything remotely related to the US.

Fine with me... Mud huts and disease are pretty non-US too and if they're happy with their mud huts and low standard of living, so be it. The only possible reason for me to care is that every year they deliberately keep themselves a 3rd world country is one more year the US suffers the effects of absolbing massive numbers of poor illegal immigrants who come to the US just to get money, not to become Americans.

rpm · « **Reply #8 on:** May 14, 2006, 12:03:26 AM »

Besides, F-16's refuse to fly when chopped and lowered.

ramzey · « **Reply #9 on:** May 14, 2006, 01:46:05 AM »

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Originally posted by eagl
It's in part a political statement of solidarity with their latin american brothers down south. They're buying stuff that's compatible with cuban, venezualian, etc. equipment. They're saying that they are part of south america, not north america. They're making the point that they are not NATO and couldn't care less about NATO interoperability. They're defining themselves as part of a group that is distinctly separate from anything remotely related to the US.

Fine with me... Mud huts and disease are pretty non-US too and if they're happy with their mud huts and low standard of living, so be it. The only possible reason for me to care is that every year they deliberately keep themselves a 3rd world country is one more year the US suffers the effects of absolbing massive numbers of poor illegal immigrants who come to the US just to get money, not to become Americans.

yes blame them cuz they buying chaper stuff from Russia without worry about being cutted from spare parts.
yes you can be angry cuz tey not buy form US, even if US was not trying to sell them anything. They had to choose between russian equipment and french.
Will you hate them more if they choose french planes?

and btw, is that not freedom to buy from whoever you like

Waffle · « **Reply #10 on:** May 14, 2006, 01:54:18 AM »

I bet a majority of the folks here can now gain a posistion in the RCAF, Royal Chicano Air Force.

I hope I get to hear about the first one crosssing the border into US airspace

Pooh21 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 14, 2006, 02:16:15 AM »

so are they gonna add hydraulics and lots of tacky chrome and pull flybys in them?

gonna be hard aiming a tec9 out the window.

Nilsen · « **Reply #12 on:** May 14, 2006, 02:17:53 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
Besides, F-16's refuse to fly when chopped and lowered.

LOL!

"pimp my Sukhoi"

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #13 on:** May 14, 2006, 02:52:05 AM »

Really, for a limited plane airforce, the Su-27 is a better choice than the F-16. The F-16 is a single pilot, single engine aircraft. With the Su-27, you get two crew, two engines, a powerful radar, and lots of wing area. Its really the equivalent of the F-15. Perhaps a bit better due to the two crew members.

The latest F-16s (built for the Israelis) have a very high wingloading, are jammed packed with electronic gear, have huge external conformal fuel tanks, and are two-seaters.

Nilsen · « **Reply #14 on:** May 14, 2006, 03:11:56 AM »

Only 2 of the 10 su27s they ordered were two seat trainers.