Author Topic: The President's Immigration Address (Read 1202 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 16, 2006, 02:30:55 PM »

hang is probly correct in that we are being sold a handfull of magic beans again but...

At least one party is talking about it... at this point.... anything we do will help.

lazs

Skuzzy · « **Reply #16 on:** May 16, 2006, 02:39:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Timofei
LOL Skuzzy, you deserve GWB or you don't ?

Not for me to say, and would be very much off-topic as well. No point to your post at all. At least, no positive contribution to the topic at hand.

Hangtime · « **Reply #17 on:** May 16, 2006, 02:42:38 PM »

I with him right up to the guest worker program.

that crap has got to be killed.

we can have immigration 'reform', new id/document accountability for employers, a secure border.. but no 'guest worker' program.

get the corporate pork off the table.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #18 on:** May 16, 2006, 02:44:46 PM »

The overall problem is, he is just redirecting attention away from something else. I do not believe a word of what he said. He is just buying time. There is another agenda at work here, and we will not be privvy to it unless someone gets busted.

Remember, he has no respect for the people of this country. He is THE 'DECIDER'. Mark my word, there is something else afoot.

Hap · « **Reply #19 on:** May 16, 2006, 02:52:34 PM »

i'll out with what i think is up. it's a like they're checking off to do lists for the next election. things they've done to prove they did something when from the beginning the outcome of the thing done they view as relatively unimportant.

~~hap~~

storch · « **Reply #20 on:** May 16, 2006, 03:00:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
I with him right up to the guest worker program.

that crap has got to be killed.

we can have immigration 'reform', new id/document accountability for employers, a secure border.. but no 'guest worker' program.

get the corporate pork off the table.

while I have to agree with other posters that something does indeed smell, especially given the timing we have seen considerable enforcement activity in this region lately. we were working a jobsite in the florida city area last month on a short trip to home depot to pick up some sundried supplies i was detained and questioned by ins and homeland security. apparently that home depot was a congregating place for illegals to find day labor. according to the detaining officer they are cracking down nation wide as well, sadly the illegals were tipped off and few were caught so they were harrassing the citizenry for the purpose of score padding i suppose. with regard to the guest worker program, the idea is sound they will be providing services no one wants to provide in our country today.

Hangtime · « **Reply #21 on:** May 16, 2006, 03:26:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
The overall problem is, he is just redirecting attention away from something else. I do not believe a word of what he said. He is just buying time. There is another agenda at work here, and we will not be privvy to it unless someone gets busted.

Remember, he has no respect for the people of this country. He is THE 'DECIDER'. Mark my word, there is something else afoot.

Perhaps Iran/Iraq and foriegn policy et al? Perhaps the CIA/NSA domestic spying policy and the moves to position the governments peek-a-boo window so it's securely and permanantly focused on what we buy, who we talk to and what our habits are so they can mine our data for the corporate puppet masters?

LePaul · « **Reply #22 on:** May 16, 2006, 03:55:24 PM »

Yea the democratic "response" was an all out embarassment to sit thru.

Once again, the democrats side on the sidelines and make pot shots versus offering any meaningful ideas or solutions.

john9001 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 16, 2006, 04:34:42 PM »

florida has had a guest worker program for years to harvest the sugar cane.

they are brought in from the islands and housed on the sugar cane farms, when the harvest is over they are paid off and taken back to the islands.

Urchin · « **Reply #24 on:** May 16, 2006, 04:41:12 PM »

Like it matters a whit to you guys what the Democrat "answers" would be if they offered any (and for all I know they have a comprehensive 12 point plan, you all would denounce it as merely criticizing the Republicans).

LePaul · « **Reply #25 on:** May 16, 2006, 04:48:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
Like it matters a whit to you guys what the Democrat "answers" would be if they offered any (and for all I know they have a comprehensive 12 point plan, you all would denounce it as merely criticizing the Republicans).

Why not offer one up verus claiming to have something you do not?

C'mon...I double dog dare ya!

Urchin · « **Reply #26 on:** May 16, 2006, 04:58:57 PM »

Who said I was a democrat?

NattyIced · « **Reply #27 on:** May 16, 2006, 05:02:36 PM »

If you don't follow one herd, you must be part of the other herd.

Hap · « **Reply #28 on:** May 16, 2006, 05:04:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
Like it matters a whit to you guys what the Democrat "answers" would be if they offered any (and for all I know they have a comprehensive 12 point plan, you all would denounce it as merely criticizing the Republicans).

actually i'm quite intererested because today's republican party is like a bunch of gals elbowing each other out of the way to get to the bargin bin of $$ until it peters out. (i'm exaggerating to make a point)

~~hap~~

lukster · « **Reply #29 on:** May 16, 2006, 05:09:22 PM »

While I too want most of what the president said he wants so far it's nothing more than talk. When we see active enforcement of our current laws or get a reform bill through the house, senate, and president then we'll see what happens. More laws without teeth will only diminish our remaining laws and piss everyone off even more than they are now.

Author Topic: The President's Immigration Address (Read 1202 times)

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