The Mighty 'O' sinks off Florida

[Hangtime]

Today, the USS Oriskany, CV34, was sunk as a fish reef off the coast of Florida.

A fine ship!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/17/carrier.reef.ap/

[Wolfala]

Sure was a good ship.

To those sailors still on patrol.

S! shipmates

[BTAirsol]

My cousin was on this ship during the Viet Nam war and was one of the first fire teams to get water on the massive fire that errupted and killed many shipmates.

[Russian]

So by renaming taken action as ‘reefing’, Navy is fully justified to dump crap into sea? Wouldn’t it be better to recycle all that metal for something more useful than a home for fish?

[nuchpatrick]

Originally posted by Russian
So by renaming taken action as ‘reefing’, Navy is fully justified to dump crap into sea? Wouldn’t it be better to recycle all that metal for something more useful than a home for fish?

Theres nothing wrong with Reefing. The ships are put though alot de-cam. and sinking a ship is cheaper then cutting it up to make tin cans.

[AlGorithm]

nuchpatrick wrote;
Theres nothing wrong with Reefing. The ships are put though alot de-cam. and sinking a ship is cheaper then cutting it up to make tin cans.

From the CNN article;
The Environmental Protection Agency in February approved the sinking of the ship with chemical toxins in electrical cables, insulation and paint still aboard.

It could also provide a convenient means of disposal for other useless items like uncounted ballots, voter registrations and copies of the constitution.

[Wolfala]

Well, for instance - last week the Reserve fleet up in the bay near Concord where the Iowa is anchored alongside about 80 others - 7000 ton Liberity ship, each one of those would take 2 million dollars a piece to get sea worthy - then would have to be towed to a scrapping yard in Texas. Steel goes for $500 per ton at the yard - but depending on the age of the vessle - sometimes its worth it just to blow it up - especially when considering aspestos abatement and all that crap involved when they try to break the vessle up.

Since the westcoast has no scrapping yards left after the drawdown - sometimes its more sensible to use them for weapons tests or reef making.

Wolf

[Hangtime]

The former crew seemed unanimous.. they'd rather see her surrendered to the sea than a cutters torch. Same for weapons testing.. a similar fate met the America.. destroyed in live fire weapons test. The data gained may save a ship and many thousands of lives in the future.

If a warship, a symbol of honorable service in defense of our nation has to go..  I say send her off like the America or the Oriskany.

[FiLtH]

Its hard to believe it would cost more to scrap it than just sinking it.

[expat]

russian
I do believe that  a large proportion of the former USSR'S fleet is sat at varoius ports just rotting away......

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Hangtime
The former crew seemed unanimous.. they'd rather see her surrendered to the sea than a cutters torch. Same for weapons testing.. a similar fate met the America.. destroyed in live fire weapons test. The data gained may save a ship and many thousands of lives in the future.

If a warship, a symbol of honorable service in defense of our nation has to go..  I say send her off like the America or the Oriskany.

I agree. This is what they did to my first ship, the USS Leahy (CG-16)...








As much as I may have hated that ship at the time and I remember how happy I was when I left it, it left a lump in my throat seeing what they did to it.

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by AlGorithm
It could also provide a convenient means of disposal for other useless items like uncounted ballots, voter registrations and copies of the constitution.

[nirvana]

What wolfala said, the asbestos is a ***** to get rid of, they do the same to old NY subway cars because they are lined with asbestos, it has no currently known  effects on the water so it is safe.  One of the problems with dumping the ships into the sea is all the precious metal that could potentially go with them, gold, platinum, copper, etc.

[Dnil]

http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060517/VIDEO/60517014

[Russian]

So because it is inconvenient or not economical, it is Okay to litter on environment? And this sentimental argument is beyond silly, almost hippy-like. Hmm, I guess this explains situations like this when it is not economically viable to actually dispose radioactive waste properly.    

(1986
After almost 40 years of cover-ups, the U.S. Government released 19,000 pages of previously classified documents which revealed that the Hanford Engineer Works was responsible for the release of significant amounts of radioactive materials into the atmosphere and the adjacent Columbia River. Between 1944 and 1966, the eight reactors, a source of plutonium production for atomic weapons, discharged billions of gallons of liquids and billions of cubic meters of gases containing plutonium and other radioactive contaminants into the Columbia River, and the soil and air of the Columbia Basin. Although detrimental effects were noticed as early as 1948, all reports critical of the facilities remained classified. By the summer of 1987, the cost of cleaning up Hanford was estimated to be $48.5 billion. The Technical Steering Panel of the government-sponsored Hanford Environmental Dose Reconstruction Project released the following statistics in July 1990: Of the 270,000 people living in the affected area, most received low doses of radiation from Iodine, but about 13,500 received a total dose some 1,300 times the annual amount of airborne radiation considered safe for civilians by the Department of Energy. Approximately 1,200 children received doses far in excess of this number, and many more received additional doses from contaminants other than Iodine. [See also May 1997 and July 2000.]),  [/i]
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http://www.lutins.org/nukes.html