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« on: May 20, 2006, 09:43:17 PM »
I was looking up my Father-in-laws P-47 squadron.  He was a mechanic in the 396th FG at Strabben, Germany.  The 'Thunder Bums"  That sounds like my new squad name.

I was struck by how many tanks they killed with P-47s.

499 Tanks
700 Locomotives
A/C Lost 110

50 cal rounds fired:  4,570,892  

I wonder who tallied up the 50 cals.  think of all that copper over Germany.

Here's the link:
http://www.368thfightergroup.com/368-stats.html

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2006, 10:22:47 PM »
I saw on Discovery Kids that P-47s used to kill Panzers by shooting them in the bottom.  

They'd take off in Ohio, dive really fast towards the ground and shoot, and the bullets would come up in Germany and go through the tanks and kill them.

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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2006, 10:33:07 PM »
There's more steel than copper in .50 BMG ball.

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2006, 10:33:48 PM »
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I saw on Discovery Kids that P-47s used to kill Panzers by shooting them in the bottom.  

They'd take off in Ohio, dive really fast towards the ground and shoot, and the bullets would come up in Germany and go through the tanks and kill them.




No they didn't, they used P-38s
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2006, 10:44:41 PM »
Ignore the s.a. post. That's pretty cool killjoy, the thunder bums.

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Re: P-47 Tank busters
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2006, 11:57:23 PM »
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Originally posted by Killjoy2
I was looking up my Father-in-laws P-47 squadron.  He was a mechanic in the 396th FG at Strabben, Germany.  The 'Thunder Bums"  That sounds like my new squad name.

I was struck by how many tanks they killed with P-47s.

499 Tanks
700 Locomotives
A/C Lost 110

50 cal rounds fired:  4,570,892  

I wonder who tallied up the 50 cals.  think of all that copper over Germany.

Here's the link:
http://www.368thfightergroup.com/368-stats.html


1. Tank's and locomotives claimed as destroyed, not destroyed
2 . i can belive only in 110 aircrafts lost and 4  milions amno used

.50 can pentrate no more then 23 mm of armour from about 200y.

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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2006, 12:04:00 AM »
50 Caliber Armor-Piercing Bullet Penetration

Homogeneous Armor Plate: 1.0"@ 200m  0.7"@ 600m  0.3"@1500m
 
Face-Hardened Armor Plate  0.9"@200M 0.5"@600m 0.2"@1500m
 
Clay 28"200m  27"@600m 21"@1500m

.50 BMG
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Re: P-47 Tank busters
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2006, 01:36:44 AM »
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Originally posted by Killjoy2
I was looking up my Father-in-laws P-47 squadron.  He was a mechanic in the 396th FG at Strabben, Germany.  The 'Thunder Bums"  That sounds like my new squad name.

I was struck by how many tanks they killed with P-47s.

499 Tanks
700 Locomotives
A/C Lost 110

50 cal rounds fired:  4,570,892  

I wonder who tallied up the 50 cals.  think of all that copper over Germany.

Here's the link:
http://www.368thfightergroup.com/368-stats.html




  Rudel  alone, nailed  more tanks than all the Jugs of USAF.
  SHOT DOWN 32 TIMES !!!  he survieved the war!

 
"Rudel logged 2,530 combat missions, .

Rudel's personal victories as a ground-attack pilot were achieved exclusively against the Soviets, and despite the most primitive conditions imaginable, including operations solely from dirt, mud, and snow covered airfields, his confirmed victories (those witnessed by two or more fellow pilots) include:

518+ Tanks
700 Trucks
150+ Flak and Artillery positions
9 Fighter/Ground Attack Aircraft
Hundreds of bridges, railway lines, bunkers, etc.
Battleship October Revolution, Cruiser Marat, and 70 landing craft
Through direct action, he saved tens of thousands of German infantrymen from certain encirclement and annihilation during the long retreat which began in July 43 and lasted until the war's end, almost two years later.





  http://members.aol.com/ab763/rudel.htm

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2006, 01:50:28 AM »
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50 Caliber Armor-Piercing Bullet Penetration

Homogeneous Armor Plate: 1.0"@ 200m  0.7"@ 600m  0.3"@1500m
 
Face-Hardened Armor Plate  0.9"@200M 0.5"@600m 0.2"@1500m
 
Clay 28"200m  27"@600m 21"@1500m

.50 BMG


modern amno? ;)

http://marinergraphics.com:16080/ww2/smallwoy/airAT2.JPG
http://marinergraphics.com:16080/ww2/smallwoy/airAT3.JPG

http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/mg/50_ammo.html
 2 tables for  on the bottom of page data for ww2

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Originally posted by ghi
Rudel  alone, nailed  more tanks than all the Jugs of USAF.
  SHOT DOWN 32 TIMES !!!  he survieved the war!

 
"Rudel logged 2,530 combat missions, .

Rudel's personal victories as a ground-attack pilot were achieved exclusively against the Soviets, and despite the most primitive conditions imaginable, including operations solely from dirt, mud, and snow covered airfields, his confirmed victories (those witnessed by two or more fellow pilots) include:

518+ Tanks
700 Trucks
150+ Flak and Artillery positions
9 Fighter/Ground Attack Aircraft
Hundreds of bridges, railway lines, bunkers, etc.
Battleship October Revolution, Cruiser Marat, and 70 landing craft
Through direct action, he saved tens of thousands of German infantrymen from certain encirclement and annihilation during the long retreat which began in July 43 and lasted until the war's end, almost two years later.





  http://members.aol.com/ab763/rudel.htm




Rudel is well know nazi lier who write nice book about himself.

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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2006, 01:55:58 AM »
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Rudel is well know nazi lier who write nice book about himself.


So can you say what is the truth of rudels stats?
I am a spy!

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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2006, 01:58:42 AM »
I said he is lier, if he lie about small things why not about stats?. Nazi scum anyway

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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2006, 02:03:24 AM »
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I said he is lier, if he lie about small things why not about stats?. Nazi scum anyway


:rolleyes:
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2006, 02:13:08 AM »
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.50 can pentrate no more then 23 mm of armour from about 200y


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50 Caliber Armor-Piercing Bullet Penetration

Homogeneous Armor Plate: 1.0"@ 200m 0.7"@ 600m 0.3"@1500m

Face-Hardened Armor Plate 0.9"@200M 0.5"@600m 0.2"@1500m



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modern amno? :)


It doesn't matter as the figures on the site you linked and those that Toad posted are the same:

1 inch = 25mm
.9 inch = 23mm  

However, .50 cal tank 'busters' are just as much 'fantasy' as Rudel's 518 'busted' tanks.

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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2006, 06:16:29 AM »
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.50 can pentrate no more then 23 mm of armour from about 200y.

What about bombs and rockets?
Legend says that pilots used to attach them to the planes and drop on enemy forces from the air.

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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2006, 06:53:14 AM »
I put that in for the additional info out to 600m.
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