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Offline Chalenge

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« on: May 22, 2006, 12:28:22 AM »
Shouldnt shutting down and restarting your engine cause damage to your engine or something? Im seeing this alot now that Im looking for it.
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2006, 08:04:35 AM »
I thought someone would agree but maybe there is something I dont know. I came over from Falcon4 Allied Force where it can take a FNG up to 15 minutes just to start a plane. I dont fly and Ive never been in a WWII fighter but would think pressing e simplifies things a bit too much. Plus there has to be some other efect when shutting down your engine at super speed and restarting it doesnt there; fouled plugs or a damaged prop drive maybe?
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2006, 08:14:19 AM »
Shutting down and restarting a plane engine has no adverse effect in AH. It's often done when ground vehicles (GV's) are spawning into an enemy base...helps one detect the sound of the incoming GV engine. Some folks use it to reduce speed, forcing an overshoot.

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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2006, 08:16:51 AM »
Piston engines are not like Jet engines which need to be started carefully in regards to blowing the compressor.

The biggest problem you will have with a radial is hydraulic lock.  That is when oil seeps into the lower cylinders after sitting a while.  As for inline or opposing cylinders this is not a problem to my knowledge.

As for AH the only engine management you have is RPM, MAP and WEP.

Would other engine management be fun?  Maybe, does it enhance the fighting maybe.  My biggest problem with it, would be the interface.  Engine management on today’s joysticks would suck, not to mention an even bigger learning curve for most noobs.

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2006, 11:44:14 AM »
My engine shutdowns in the game are usualy accomanied by a strange black trail of smoke flowing behind the plane I have noticed. It happens pretty regular.
I`ve also noticed that right before shutdown, one of the little gaugie thingies has a fastly falling needle.
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2006, 11:53:16 AM »
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As for inline or opposing cylinders this is not a problem to my knowledge.


Oil is tough to compress; you can easily bend a rod trying to do so.

The inline, inverted Ranger has to be pulled through too; oil collects in the rear cylinder(s).

The start/stop trick in AH is gamey. Not because it "couldn't be done", though. It could. WW2 engines are pretty robust and forgiving of abuse.

The engine will turn as long as there is airspeed to turn the prop (feathering not included). RPM won't change much if the engine is off for short periods and "shock cooling" isn't a factor in the short term.

The gamey part is that 99% of WW2 vet pilots would look at you as if you were demented if you suggested this as a valid air combat tactic.
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2006, 12:11:00 PM »
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My engine shutdowns in the game are usualy accomanied by a strange black trail of smoke flowing behind the plane I have noticed. It happens pretty regular.
I`ve also noticed that right before shutdown, one of the little gaugie thingies has a fastly falling needle.


I suffer this same problem constantly.  No amount of effort lets me restart them in this state.  I wonder why that is? :)
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2006, 12:15:17 PM »
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It's often done when ground vehicles (GV's) are spawning into an enemy base...helps one detect the sound of the incoming GV engine.
Yea, I remember Henry Fonda doing that once. ;)

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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2006, 02:22:17 PM »
My engine shut down sometimes is accompanied by

 A: Red splatters on the canopy

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 B: The view of the airfield from the tower

 I feel I did pretty good if I get away with a trail of black smoke.:lol

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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2006, 06:33:42 PM »
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Shouldnt shutting down and restarting your engine cause damage to your engine or something? Im seeing this alot now that Im looking for it.


Keep in mind that the key that starts/kills the engine is right next to the keys for flaps, mic, and landing gear. Immediately destroying the engine of anyone who missed a keystroke in a dark room would make for some really irritating gameplay.
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2006, 07:02:14 PM »
guys who kill their engine while in a fight r gay.
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2006, 01:00:23 AM »
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guys who kill their engine while in a fight r gay.


Well then give me the rainbow flag award b/c that's how I roll!
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2006, 10:26:06 AM »
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guys who kill their engine while in a fight r gay.
So you're saying you kill your engine in fights? :aok

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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2006, 10:54:14 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2006, 11:42:10 AM »
LOL Murdr!  The Bulge!

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