Author Topic: Guess what happens when you trust technology (Read 1216 times)

Debonair · « **Reply #30 on:** May 25, 2006, 06:50:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Simaril
A commercial pilot friend of mine tells me that doctors (a notoriously arrogant bunch) have the highest accident rate as civil pilots, likely for the same reasons as noted....

V-tail Bonanza often refered (more in the past, Cirrus seems to be a lot more in vouge now) to as
"the fork tailed doctor killer"

midnight Target · « **Reply #31 on:** May 25, 2006, 10:19:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
HAARRRRRR!

Was ***** takin lubbers sailing. we'd be dashing along sheeted up tight, gettin time to tack.. i'd start barkin orders " 'vast starboard, there! Up tacks and clews; ready! 'BOUT!!

... buncha blank stares. 12 tons of yacht with a bone in her teeth continues to bear down on the breakwater..

*sheesh*

You.. free that sheet... (blank stare) ****!! THAT ROPE, RIGHT THERE!! YOU.. GRAB THAT ****IN ROPE OVER THERE, AND ****IN PULL LIKE YER LIFE DEPENDED ON IT BECAUSE NOW, DAMMIT; IT DOES!!!

Such a fun, relaxing and deeply enjoyable experience for all.

Went out on San Francisco bay last year with my bud and his brother.. his brother's boat. It was a 40' beaut and he was the only one who had a freakin clue. We didn't sink her, but we sailed right through the middle of someone elses race... they weren't happy.

(turns out we had the ROW, but they still yelled.. it was a blast.)

laying that big ol boat on it's side and doing about 9 knots was a rush I didn't expect. I mean... 9 knots... that's nothing right? BS.

I got pics around here somewhere.

Nilsen · « **Reply #32 on:** May 26, 2006, 02:22:51 AM »

ROFL! Hangtime

JB28 Im guessing he threw out the anchor to prevent drifting away if he hit the rocks with his propeller, or maybe the impact was so hard that it released itself.

Edbert1 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 26, 2006, 07:36:01 AM »

I've loved the 58 Fairlanes for a long time, particularly the Skyliners. I'd take the boat if it was free, then sell it and buy a couple of the nicer ones like this...

Nilsen · « **Reply #34 on:** May 30, 2006, 03:47:47 PM »

On link below you can see pictures from when they raised it. On the last one you can see the growth line. Looks good to me.

The boat has just been sold by the insurance company to another guy for 1/4 the price. At that price I would have bought it and restored it!

http://www.fvn.no/bilder/bildeserier/article368285.ece

weaselsan · « **Reply #35 on:** May 30, 2006, 04:05:53 PM »

Salvage is normally about $1,000 per foot. That would be about $58,000 to raise it and get it back. Not that difficult with the right equipment.

rpm · « **Reply #36 on:** May 30, 2006, 04:15:49 PM »

Just call Mythbusters and tell them to bring ping-pong balls.

Nilsen · « **Reply #37 on:** May 30, 2006, 04:16:34 PM »

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Originally posted by weaselsan
Salvage is normally about $1,000 per foot. That would be about $58,000 to raise it and get it back. Not that difficult with the right equipment.

No idea what the insurance company payied for it, but I would guess it only cost 10% of that figure to get it on dry land. That sum is way far off

weaselsan · « **Reply #38 on:** May 30, 2006, 06:34:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
No idea what the insurance company payied for it, but I would guess it only cost 10% of that figure to get it on dry land. That sum is way far off

In the U.S. any craft that is salvage (this is a prime example) is worth $1,000 per foot. It would be up to the insurance company or owner to pay the salvage or lose it. I doubt if any company here would do it for less. This thing prolly has $58,000 in electronics aboard. Not to mention a couple of HMU's (High Maintainence units)

(example of a high maintenence unit)

LePaul · « **Reply #39 on:** May 30, 2006, 06:57:01 PM »

Hang of all people is familiar with the support my previous employer made (Capn Voyager Mosaic, etc etc)

Our Tech Line...tech line now, for installing the software, was mobbed all the time with skippers who only knew how to write checks...asking how to sail.

We had a guy who felt actual charts were too expensive. So he bought aerial photos of areas he sailed. He thought dark spots were good. He ran aground in his $300,00 boat. No major damage...but a blow to his ego. Thankfully, this guy took a few Coast Guard sponsored outings, courses, etc and learned to sail.

But people sinking million dollar ships is like low time pilots wanting to buy warbirds and dying. Except in a boat, there isnt that messy fire that wipes out a few homes/schools, etc

Hangtime · « **Reply #40 on:** May 30, 2006, 07:11:20 PM »

Yup.. that nav software was awsome. Came in handy more than once!

LePaul · « **Reply #41 on:** May 30, 2006, 07:21:11 PM »

I still have all those Chart CDs you asked for, but you never gave me an address!

Company office was closed in 2004 (2 months after I bought a house...ouch)...not sure who bought the company now. Same folks who acquired capjack, etc

Brenjen · « **Reply #42 on:** May 30, 2006, 07:21:27 PM »

How did he hit the rocks? Did he back into them? I don't see damage to the bow. Where did he hit the rocks? It's deep enough where he is down by the stern to draught him several times over (that boat has a very shallow draught).

The picture doesn't seem to fit the story.

Hangtime · « **Reply #43 on:** May 30, 2006, 07:30:10 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
I still have all those Chart CDs you asked for, but you never gave me an address!

Company office was closed in 2004 (2 months after I bought a house...ouch)...not sure who bought the company now. Same folks who acquired capjack, etc

Holy CRAP! I updated the software with the original vendor like you suggested and picked up a chart kit local (the company was here on the island), the went to The Vineyard for 3 weeks...

ARRGH!

LePaul · « **Reply #44 on:** May 30, 2006, 07:34:19 PM »

Well the charts I have (SC2 thru SC7) are all rasters from 2004.

I beleive everything went DNC/Vector with version 8.

Oh poo, MapTech bought out Capn....Westrec sold us out to our competitors. Must be cuz Boeing owns Nobletec

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