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Offline Brenjen

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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2006, 09:28:38 PM »
My analysis is, we are on track & doing fine. Everyone knew there would be heavy U.S. casualties when we went in, you can't occupy a country for as long as ten years (that's how long they said it could take in the begining) without taking casualties; even in a country you liberated from a third party aggressor.

 The W.M.D.'s were there, we know they were, Sadman used them on his own people, the U.S. forces just can't go into Iran & Syria to get what was trucked over to them at the momment which was the biggest portion of what he had. It was said, the most dangerous job in post-war Iraq would be the backhoe operator & I believe that is true.

 Our government got us into the untied nations & they got us into the problems in the middle east. Joining the untied nations has been our biggest mistake to date, besides giving back territory gained by our soldiers sacrifices, it's funny, the land we took & kept we didn't deserve (Hawaii for one) & the lands we deserved we didn't keep such as France, Germany, the Iranian oil platforms in the persian gulf etc.

 It was U.S. & British jets, our pilots, our money, our nations relations with the rest of the world that the untied nations put on the table when they came up with that "no fly zone" in Iraq. The Iraqi military was painting our planes with AA radar daily, we had the right to go in there as a violation of their surrender just on that alone.

 The only thing Bush has done that I think is crap, is flip-flop after the end of govt vs. govt hostilities & say we went in to spread democracy, that's not why we went & he shouldn't try to crawfish & say that it was, our attack on Iraq was justified & it would be justified if we stomp the guts out of any country that threatens our safety or that of any of our allies (including france & canada)

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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2006, 12:19:02 AM »
All Iraqs bases are belong to us

We are the oil makers and the oil takers, we are the oil heart breakers.

You guys should have joined the coalition of the willing boroda, we would have given you some oil :D
« Last Edit: May 26, 2006, 12:22:36 AM by Yeager »
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2006, 12:51:42 AM »
FLASH

no... really...

****FLASH****

wallah!

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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2006, 09:52:56 AM »
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Out of the goodness of their hearts and the profound sense of obligation.

After all, we were greeted as liberators. The parades were spectacular.


I understand this two lines as a bitter sarcasm, am i right?

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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2006, 09:55:18 AM »
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I understand this two lines as a bitter sarcasm, am i right?


You understand perfectly. :aok
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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2006, 10:00:43 AM »
OH PISH!!!

Check out how well our gov't was doing 90 years after our constitution.  

None of this stuff happens fast.  

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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2006, 10:07:38 AM »
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OH PISH!!!

Check out how well our gov't was doing 90 years after our constitution.  

None of this stuff happens fast.  

hap


Key difference is that we weren't sitting around waiting for someone else to come and liberate us. None of this stuff happens fast, especially when there was no Iraqi revolution to begin with.
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2006, 10:09:40 AM »
In the Middle East the "Thumbs up"-guesture is considered as an obscene guesture - like the "middlefinger"-guesture in the West.

So it was extremely funny to see all the iraqis who were given their "liberators" this guesture, when they were driving though Bagdad, who were answering with the same guestures.

Image this with middlefingers in an western country.

So at least there is still some fun in all of the nonsense of the War in Iraq.

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« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2006, 10:40:23 AM »
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In the Middle East the "Thumbs up"-guesture is considered as an obscene guesture - like the "middlefinger"-guesture in the West.

So it was extremely funny to see all the iraqis who were given their "liberators" this guesture, when they were driving though Bagdad, who were answering with the same guestures.

Image this with middlefingers in an western country.

So at least there is still some fun in all of the nonsense of the War in Iraq.


Do you have pictures of this? I don't recall seeing this on TV. I do recall many people lining the streets and clapping their hands in unison.

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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2006, 10:44:10 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2934011.stm

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Much has already been made of the thumbs-up gesture that British and American soldiers have received from "welcoming" Iraqis. Unlike in many western cultures, in the Middle East the thumbs-up can be an insult, roughly translating as "up yours". But the US Army's Defense Language Institute says that after the first Gulf War, the gesture was adopted by some Iraqis, along with the ok sign, as a "symbol of co-operation and freedom".
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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2006, 10:52:15 AM »
ahh yes, the dreaded "thumbs up" revolt :aok
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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2006, 10:59:00 AM »
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Key difference is that we weren't sitting around waiting for someone else to come and liberate us. None of this stuff happens fast, especially when there was no Iraqi revolution to begin with.


Since, the US in 1861 wsn't sitting around waiting for someone else to come and liberate us . . . . WHAT?

or . . .

Since a key difference exists betwee America in 1861 and Iraqi in 2006, smart guys conclude . . . . .


You finish the sentence because while I agree with you the difference you cited exists and it maybe "key" too, so what do you conclude given the difference and similarity?  Reform dosen't take a long time?

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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2006, 11:15:09 AM »
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You guys should have joined the coalition of the willing boroda, we would have given you some oil :D


I prefer unrefined sunflowerseed oil in my salad. Do they make such things in Iraq? As for the oil that is pumped from the groud - maybe it will be a better idea to sell us natural gas or maybe vodka?...

Our government and capital are perfectly satisfied with the situation in Iraq. I suggest you guys to invade Brazil, so we can also benefit from high prices on a global timber market.

Our next most splendid resource is fresh water, I just can't imagine who you need to attack to raise prices on it. I suggest Antarctic. I always wanted to join an Antarctic Liberation Front.

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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2006, 11:29:41 AM »
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Key difference is that we weren't sitting around waiting for someone else to come and liberate us. None of this stuff happens fast, especially when there was no Iraqi revolution to begin with.


Tell that to the Kurds who had chemical weapons used on them.

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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2006, 11:40:22 AM »
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Tell that to the Kurds who had chemical weapons used on them.


Another suggestion: why not invade Turkey, where Kurds are at least as opressed as they were under Saddam?

Frankly speaking I'm sick of all this "liberation" nonsence. I was born in a country that declared such a "liberation" a sacred thing, and I am surprised by the people who sincerely believe in such stuff.