Author Topic: Collisions and Kill Shooting (Read 3989 times)

GlacierGirl · « **on:** May 26, 2006, 10:58:24 AM »

I wish somebody would tell me WTH is up with the collisions, I know its been brought up before, but the squeaky wheel gets the greese. I have had dozens of collisions where the guy runs into me and I come out missiong both wings my tail and a pilot wound. and he leaves without so much as a missing gear. I dont want to sound like a jerk but I think this takes precedence over new planes (as much as Id like new planes aswell). This crap has got to stop. I say make it so that when theres a collision both planes get equial damage or better yet make them both blow up. If somebody hits me I want the biggest most bad A** explosion ever that takes him with me, because thats better than him getting away with another kill and no damage.

Also with Kill shooting. Some times people fly infront of you when your guns are a blazin and you end up blasting your self out of exsistance. That will never stop so instead of you getting damage can you make it so the bullets go into the plane and leave no damage to either plane and no markings what so ever. This way the people behind you wont be able to shoot through you at planes but dont get any damage. Their bullets just kinda dissappear in your plane.

Murdr · « **Reply #1 on:** May 26, 2006, 11:09:09 AM »

Gosh, if only there was a way to look up previous discussions

Search results collide, poster HiTech
Search results shooter, poster HiTech

Phtom · « **Reply #2 on:** May 26, 2006, 11:34:34 AM »

CC Murdr, lots of posts on this.

Personal view...in collisions both should die, as neither one pulled away.

Karnak · « **Reply #3 on:** May 26, 2006, 12:20:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Phtom
CC Murdr, lots of posts on this.

Personal view...in collisions both should die, as neither one pulled away.

And wow, that is just what happens in AH if neither pulls away.

Who'da thunk it?

Phtom · « **Reply #4 on:** May 26, 2006, 12:40:49 PM »

Don't know,

Last night even a Spit16 rammed me and I died..he didn't.

GlacierGirl · « **Reply #5 on:** May 26, 2006, 12:43:49 PM »

Yeah there have been alot of posts about this but if everybody stops complaining nobody will fix it. So if we bring it up enough HT will realize there is something wrong and most likey fix or tell us to deal with it.

Murdr · « **Reply #6 on:** May 26, 2006, 12:56:56 PM »

Read HiTech's posts. There is nothing to fix with collusions. He has explained the technicallities of it ad nasuim.

Read his killshooter posts, he explains why he prefers his way of handling friendly fire, and he is not inclined to change it.

Lye-El · « **Reply #7 on:** May 26, 2006, 01:11:09 PM »

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Originally posted by GlacierGirl
Yeah there have been alot of posts about this but if everybody stops complaining nobody will fix it. So if we bring it up enough HT will realize there is something wrong and most likey fix or tell us to deal with it.

I have read and understood how it works and why. Nothing to fix.

Now if HT would act on the head on complaints and make them impossible and take the lazer guns off the bombers because of complaints..........Now we have something worth fixing!

hubsonfire · « **Reply #8 on:** May 26, 2006, 01:20:10 PM »

I am so horribly tempted, but I won't.

Read up on these. The problem isn't the collision or Killshooter system, merely your perceptions of them. Both work fine, which is to say, they work exactly like they're supposed to.

In the modern world, the squeaky wheel doesn't get greased. It gets removed, replaced with another one, thrown in the trash, and then buried, dumped in the sea, or melted down and recycled. Just saying.

Schatzi · « **Reply #9 on:** May 26, 2006, 04:26:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Phtom
Don't know,

Last night even a Spit16 rammed me and I died..he didn't.

Phtom, he probably just SHOT you then.

And BTW, what your front end "sees" regarding collision is not neccessarily exactly what you see on your monitor display either (human eye tends to have trouble with 80 fps).... so what looks like a very close call on your monitor might still be counted as "collision" by your FE - hence damage.

Karnak · « **Reply #10 on:** May 26, 2006, 05:20:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Phtom
Don't know,

Last night even a Spit16 rammed me and I died..he didn't.

Did he? Were you sitting right next to him and watching it on his screen too? How do you know he didn't avoid the collision?

You don't.

You don't know if he broke at the last moment.

You don't know if the positions of the two aircraft in his "Aces High" world even required him to dodge.

What you do know is that in his "Aces High" world he did not collide with the representation of your aircraft in his "Aces High" world. You know this because he did not take collision damage.

Your "Aces High" world and his "Aces High" world are not the same. They are not even the same, just with one a half second ahead of the other. What they are is very similar, but with sublte positioning differences. They are similar enough to have dogfights that suspend disbelief, but not similar enough to have a collision be mutual in the significant majority of cases.

Brenjen · « **Reply #11 on:** May 26, 2006, 05:50:03 PM »

look at this link

it explains a lot of the FE & lag problems with collisions

Oleg · « **Reply #12 on:** May 27, 2006, 01:50:33 AM »

Avoid collision and you will not have problem with it.
Dont shot if you can hit friendly and you will not have problem with killshooter.
Dont attack bombers from dead 6 and you will not need to complain about "lazer guns".

The single thing i have problems with is AI puffy acks. They kill me almost as often as enemy planes and there are little i can do to prevent it. Fly below 3k or dont approach enemy fields at all dont looks as appropriate solution.

Phtom · « **Reply #13 on:** May 27, 2006, 02:22:07 AM »

Sorry,

All I know is that I got a message that he collided with me, and I died. He landed his plane, and I was one of the kills.

Oleg · « **Reply #14 on:** May 27, 2006, 02:32:19 AM »

If you dont got message "You collided with ..." and was killed/damaged then he shot you with guns.