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Offline SOB

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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2006, 03:07:12 AM »
SOB?
SOB!

Hows about [/i]you[/i] cram it?
Despite rumors to the contrary, I don't swing that way.

Do you actually think I have anything against USO shows or morale boosters? As the hell if.
I don't really think so, no.  Just curious why you feel compelled to cast dispersions at people in this thread for enjoying the show.  ie: "Is there a problem with the Humvees?.... or is there a problem with people's focus?"  As though enjoying the show somehow makes a person less concerned about the well being of our troops in this war.

And I care about the troops over there as if they were my own brothers. Because they are.
Good on ya.

I get frustrated... okay? I get frustrated because I see them over there trying to do an impossible job while getting their legs cut out from underneath them. I get frustrated because they shouldn't be there in the first place. I'm angry about it.
And here we are in agreement.

Dragster pop-a-wheelie Humvees don't exactly boost my morale, and despite the good-times had by the few guys who got to participate in the teevee show, there are dozens more who drive these things into bombs on a daily basis.
OK.  You didn't enjoy it.  Other people did, and I don't see how that's a problem.  That others die due to IEDs while driving Humvees is a parallel that I'm not seeing.  It's a TV show about souping up vehicles, and in the vein of this military-themed show, they used the most likely (popular, well known) suspect, the Humvee.  If you're just having an irrational emotional reaction, that's cool, no need to explain.

It just gets to me. It weighs on me. And that won't stop until it's over. It permeates everything I feel. It clouds everything I see. And it will be that way until the war is over. I'm ever cognisant of it, and aware to a fault.
Sounds like a ****ty way to trod through your daily life.  I'll add you to the list of reasons why I hope we're able to pull out of that pit soon.

Tricked-out riced-up Humvees, well... nice as they may be.... they don't do it for me.
Me neither.  That doesn't mean I have to crap on guys who do, though.  Of course, Monster Garage isn't necessarily about being in love with the end product as it is about enjoying the art of the transformation...but I take it you don't care either way.
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2006, 03:16:51 AM »
Hey.... who said I'm supposed to be rational all the time? :)
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2006, 03:27:33 AM »
By the way....

We agree:

That the soldiers are our brothers.

We agree:

That they aren't getting a fair shake.

We agree:

That they are doing an impossible job.

We agree:

That they shouldn't be there in the first place.

We disagree:

On pimping Humvees.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2006, 03:51:27 AM »
It's ironic that some people think about Iraq at home more than some people in Iraq do. Maybe Ironic isn't the word, but it's just really...unexpected.

And yes, the uparmored Humvee sucks overall like most stop-gap measures do, but it fills a niche alot better than bipedal transportation or a tracked vehicle does. I've heard thru the grapevine there's a replacement to look forward to in the near future, but can't provide any more info about it.

As for the overall war effort, I don't think it will suffer much if at all because someone pimped out some wrecked vehicles.
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2006, 04:08:52 AM »
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We disagree:

On pimping Humvees.

True, but I've seen your pimped out N1K2-J, so I know you're a playa'. ;)
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2006, 04:12:50 AM »
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Hey.... who said I'm supposed to be rational all the time? :)


You could try Midol® for times like these.

culero (just trying to help :))
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2006, 06:27:41 AM »
I always thought Humvees were really unique, cool looking vehicles.  Though I think Jesse James is one step above trailer trash.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2006, 06:36:11 AM »
Nash, I didn't know you had a brother in Iraq.
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2006, 07:38:15 AM »
That is the most emotional I have ever seen Jesse at the end.
Twas a very good thing he did there and a lot was put into making the visit itself.
Contrary to what was stated above by our local mishmouther, it was not just the few who were involved in the build that had the enjoyment from his visit. He visited a lot of troops , in a lot of different locations on his trip.
Bringing a little bit of home to those doing our country`s greatest service is never a bad thing.
Celebs visiting the troops for a show is a great thing, but to take the time that Jesse spent there was awesome.
I got a kick out of the "pay cut" joke he popped on the spur of the moment.
I think people like Jesse can be related to by most of the troops a lot easier than most that have visited so far.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2006, 07:43:25 AM by Jackal1 »
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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2006, 07:51:42 AM »
Why the Humvee?

Because it's much harder to get a 120,250 lbs (63 tons, combat loaded) M1A1 Abrams to do a wheelie.

Nash, don't feel so bad.

I'm currently meeting about 1 or 2 "just got home from Iraq or Afghanistan" vets a day where I work. They're all glad to be home. Haven't met one that voices your emotions as displayed above though. Met several that have already volunteered to go back. Maybe you're just out of touch with your fellow brothers in the United States armed forces?
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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2006, 08:33:31 AM »
The humvee was designed as a utility vehicle, not as a ARMORED FIGHTING VEHICLE, but we can't expect nash to know anything about armored fighting vehicles.

Do to a mission change it was retro-fitted with armor plating.

At one time when i was in the marines i was assigned a jeep, my jeep not only had a thin body , it had no doors-NO DOORS!

My god , i could have fallen out and got hurt, what was our govt thinking of? But it did have a big yellow sticker on the dash that said" warning, this vehicle can turn over if driven over 35mph in a turn causing injury or death" or something like that.

I wonder if the govt was worried about me or damage to the jeep?
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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2006, 08:53:52 AM »
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2006, 09:08:57 AM »
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I get frustrated... okay? I get frustrated because I see them over there trying to do an impossible job while getting their legs cut out from underneath them. I get frustrated because they shouldn't be there in the first place. I'm angry about it.
Holy ****! Did you steal that line from the rebel in "Forest Gump"? Maybe you could take a moment and ponder the rational of getting so upset about something so out of your control.

I don't recall seeing a "the war is a wonderful thing" post in this thread. I don't recall seeing a "all this wouldn't be possible if it hadn't been for our wonderous leader" statement anywhere.

Just ask yourself one simple question:

1) is it good or bad that that Jesse James went over there and did this show with soldiers?

If you find you are unable to address the question specifically because you're just going to tare off on a "THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE THERE" rant... then you're missing the point and probably should learn to just avoid threads like this in the future.
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« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2006, 12:00:15 PM »
Lessee, we have a criticism of a vehicle which was never designed to be a front line battle vehicle capable of withstanding anti tank rounds and explosive devices because it succombs to them. HHHMMM yep I can see where that's really someones fault there. (There's a real reason those munitions are called ANTI TANK rounds.)

We then have criticism about a tv show whose only claim to fame is changing a vehicle into something it was never designed for strictly for show with no purpose whatsoever in the real world. It was entertainment, nothing more.

I find this just SO freaking ironic. A poster here who regularly criticises the war and our presence there claims brotherhood with the folks who are serving when he has never, ever placed himself in a position to EVER serve with his "brothers". Like he has some kind of common reference with those who do go in harms way. Things like this weigh on him every day. Yeah right. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2006, 12:56:08 PM »
Troops in Iraq are doing a fantastic job and the mission is the right mission and it will succeed.  There is no alternative.
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