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Offline tedrbr

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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2006, 01:35:33 AM »
There are other options for spending buff perks that I'd like to see:

Heinkel He 177A-3 (or later) Greif (Griffin) Heavy bomber
First flight    November 1939  Entered service    1942/1943  Production ended 1944 for Fighter Emergency Program --- Germany was totally defensive in the air by then.
Manufacturer    Heinkel and Arado
Weights  Empty    15,870 kg    35,000 lb  Loaded    32,470 kg    71,600 lb
Performance  Maximum speed    565 km/h @ 6,100 m    350 mph @ 21,000 ft     Combat range    1.540 km  960 miles  Service ceiling  9,400 m    30,800 ft
Armament:  Guns six to eight MG/cannons;   Bombs  7,200 kg 15,900 lb

Early versions had problem catching fire, later versions with DB610 nacelle (each containing two DB605 engines) had less problems with imitating a Zippo lighter.  Due to design problem of trying to make a heavy bomber  also capable of dive bombing.

    He 177A-3
    He 177A-3/R3 - Anti-shipping version
    He 177A-3/R5 - 75 mm gun in ventral gondola
    He 177A-3/R7 - Torpedo Bomber
    He 177A-5 - Increased maximum external bombload

Production Numbers: Over 1000, of which none is known to exist today.

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Junkers Ju 290  ** if it came also with the radar package **  :D  Maritime Patrol  ** basis for the Ju 390 which had 2 prototypes, but cancelled production**
First Flight    July 16, 1942 (Ju 290 V1)  Entered Service    August 1942
Manufacturer    Junkers
Weights:  Empty  33,005 kg  72,611 lb  Loaded  Maximum takeoff    44,970 kg    99,141 lb
Performance:  Maximum speed    440 km/h    273 mph  Range    6,150 km    3,843 miles Service ceiling    6,000 m    19,680 ft

Radar    FuG 200 Hohentwiel
Armament:  Guns    2x 20 mm MG 151/20 in dorsal turrets  (*** 20mm turrets...yum....**),  1 x 20 mm MG 151/20 in tail,   2 x 20mm MG 151/20 at waist,   1 x 20mm MG 151/20 in gondola,   2 x 13 mm MG 131 in gondola

Anyone know how much ord this thing could carry?

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Or cargo aircraft like the:

Messerschmitt Me 323 "Gigant"   Heavy transport  (* butt-ugly to boot*)
First flight    Fall 1941  Entered service    1943
Manufacturer    Messerschmitt A.G.
Dimensions:   Length    28.2 m    92 ft 4 in  Wingspan    55.2 m    181 ft 0 in
Height    10.15 m    33 ft3.5 in
Weights  Empty    27,330 kg    60,260 lb    Loaded    29,500 kg    65,000 lb
Maximum takeoff    43,000 kg    94,815 lb
Performance    Maximum speed    270 km/h    170 mph  Combat range    800 km    500 mile   Service ceiling    4,000 m    13,100 ft   Rate of climb 216 m/min    710 ft/min
Armament  Guns    (example) 18 × 7.92 mm MG81 machine-guns

Could carry and drop 100 troops or 15 tons of equipment.
Who wants a slow,  armed goon that can carry a jeep, M3, M8, or drop 100 troops?  Who would spend perkies for it?

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In fact, I see a general resistence to German buffs like the He-177 and He111 being designed, cause we'll want the Fritz X anti-ship missile and the Henschel Hs 293 air-to-ship gliding guided bomb next.  :t


information gleened from Wikipedia...... fast but effective for this purpose.

Offline Martyn

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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2006, 05:54:09 AM »
I agree with Lusche - a heavily perked Fairey Battle - YAY!
Here we are, living on top of a molten ball of rock, spinning around at a 1,000mph, orbiting a nuclear fireball and whizzing through space at half-a-million miles per hour. Most of us believe in super-beings which for some reason need to be praised for setting this up. This, apparently, is normal.

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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2006, 10:39:45 AM »
Brenjen,

They have not said no to the B-29.  In fact it was used as an example of what the perk system was for.  They have said no to the nuke, rightly so, and that may be what you are remembering.

The only perk bombers I can think of would be:

A-26
B-29A
Mosquito B.Mk XVI

Maybe Il-10
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Offline Brenjen

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2006, 07:17:17 PM »
No Karnak, someone brought up the B-29 in a different thread & directly asked HT to pipe in a definite yes or no & his one word answer was as follows:






NO

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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2006, 01:11:02 AM »
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Originally posted by Brenjen
No Karnak, someone brought up the B-29 in a different thread & directly asked HT to pipe in a definite yes or no & his one word answer was as follows:






NO


Go read it again.  The question in the thread was could we have some kind of marker that shows if HTC is considering an idea, has at least read it, or some such thing.  Someone else says he likes it, and oh, by the way, will we get a B-29.  Hitech responds with "NO".  Perfectly vague to me whether he was saying no to the "provide feedback" of the orignal poster's wish, or to the B-29.

Jury is still out IMO.

Unless there is another thread I don't know about -- I am referring to the one titled "Responces - HTC" [sic] in the General Discussion forum by Cav58.
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Offline Brenjen

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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2006, 09:36:30 AM »
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and oh, by the way, will we get a B-29. Hitech responds with "NO". Perfectly vague to me whether he was saying no to the "provide feedback" of the orignal poster's wish, or to the B-29.


 Yes, you are correct, it is a vague answer in a way as it is open to interpretation. I took it to mean:

NO.....to all of the above.

It can be as you suggest; NO....to some of the above.

 His answer seemed awfully succinct to me when I read it; but I do see where others may find differently in the same two letter response.

 

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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2006, 11:43:08 AM »
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Originally posted by KTM520guy
It would be nice to something to spend bomber perks on. Anything. The AR234 is just a waste of good perks. I bet when the staff at HTC looks at all the work that went into  the 234 they all say "Now there is a big chunk of my life I won't get back"

:D

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The AR-234
  • Carries 3,300 lbs of bombs.
  • Makes a great scout.
  • Fly's Dam fast.
  • Will take upto 600+ mph in a dive.
  • Allows you to have great fun playing with LALA drivers who think they can catch you.
  • Means you can drop the Dar at three bases in short succession.
  • Has Ratos which allow you to have even more fun.
  • Is my all time favorite AH bomber.  


You sir, need to spend some time flying her.

Try diving at high speed through a bunch of enemy cons and then going vertical... watch em all scramble after you until the stall out then hit the Ratos and fly away to safety....
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« Last Edit: May 13, 2006, 11:45:53 AM by mussie »

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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2006, 01:59:53 PM »
You can do almost all that in a P47 plus fly faster.

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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2006, 03:22:55 PM »
AR-234 + TA + Bordom = 350+ MPH through VH.....

Got the film somewhere.

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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2006, 03:55:36 PM »
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Originally posted by Brenjen
No Karnak, someone brought up the B-29 in a different thread & directly asked HT to pipe in a definite yes or no & his one word answer was as follows:






NO

From the HTC website's perk page:

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The perk system is a way for HTC to introduce some interesting but otherwise unbalancing planes on a limited basis but the benefits go deeper than that.  Perk planes (and vehicles) would be things like Me 262s, Ta 152s, Tempests, B-29s, Ar 234s, Tiger IIs, etc.  These are interesting rides but would be very unbalancing if they were available on an unlimited basis.  So there won't be unlimited availability but they'll be available as bonuses or perks every so often.
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Offline Brenjen

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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2006, 04:15:35 PM »
Yeah, I read that before Karnak. Read E25280's post & my reply. What I was refering too was brought up in another thread.

 I take his simple & direct one word answer of NO at face value. He seemed to me to be answering the question "and oh, by the way, will we get a B-29"

 But it is debateable as to what he meant when he replied.

 LOL, I can't speak for him or anyone else, just remarking about what I read. As E25280 pointed out, different folks comprehend differently & what to me seemed quite clear, seemed vague to him.

 I agree 100%, it could be interpretted (sp?) entirely different than the way I took it & I apologize for believing he meant NO, when he may have meant NO to part of the statement in the post & YES to the part that was a question but only answered with NO instead of going into detail.

 

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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2006, 03:43:33 AM »
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Originally posted by mussie
AR-234 + TA + Bordom = 350+ MPH through VH.....

Got the film somewhere.


Correction

AR-234 + TA + Bordom = 500+ MPH through BH.....

Did it last night lol....

Offline Mr No Name

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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2006, 02:01:32 PM »
Well at least the B29 is in pacific fighters...
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