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Offline mussie

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« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2006, 10:02:51 AM »
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8. Ulso under the new system we will be able to ship default configurations for each almost all JS's made.


Almost sounds like your gonna make a boxed retail version of AH with full color A3 field and terrain maps, plane guide and so on....

Hell I just gave myself an idea for the color printer here at work I wonder if it does A3 :huh ?........

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« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2006, 10:24:58 AM »
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1. JS mapping was the most common suport call.I.E. how do I configure my joystick.

2. If you had multiple usb devices and pluged them into different ports after configurationit would loose your mapping.

3. If you orginaly configured by not rebooting and pluging in your sticks. After reboot all mapping would be gone.

4. You could not have different map modes for analog devices.

5. It only supported 32 buttons.

6. People did not understand the scalling/dead band and dampaing.

7. You could not map 2 different buttons to the same function.

8. Ulso under the new system we will be able to ship default configurations for each almost all JS's made.

So just because you were used to it,does not meen it didn't need changing.

Under the new system you can be setup exactly as you were before, with at worst having to do 1 button press at start of flight.


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1) Only you would know, but I know from the last 3 days I wouldn't disagree.

2) Still happens now.

3) Still happens now

4) Didn't need them

5) ONLY 32!!!!! Geez isn't that enough for anynoe.

6) Point taken, but could just add tooltips as you have done.

7) Whereas now we still can't.
i.e. toggle primary weapons, toggle secondary buttons. Used to be backspace, now requires two different keys.

8) Good idea

Bascially gone from seamless fighter to buff to jabo to GV to having to set up modes, assign more buttons.

But thanks for explaining.
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« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2006, 10:29:42 AM »
Thanks hitech for explaining a bit of the reasons behind the decision.

I take it the "map 2 functions to 1 button" feature was just a byproduct of the last system, and the new system does things differently (so that it's not easily possible)?

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« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2006, 10:30:58 AM »
Unless I am very much mistaken, the Fire all Global button does not drop your ORD but will fire your Primary and Secondary Guns....

You need a second global button mapped to fire secondary, As far as I am concerned this is great, but I only realised it when I was flying... I wonder if this is causing confusion amongst players...?

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« Reply #64 on: June 05, 2006, 10:39:06 AM »
For me Mussie that is the problem.
We need far more buttons now than we previoulsy did.

By adding support for more than 32 buttons, it means you need more buttons.
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« Reply #65 on: June 05, 2006, 10:41:37 AM »
... just fix the feedback issue that maybe exists.

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« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2006, 10:45:16 AM »
The primary/secondary fire buttons was needed on some planes.

The Ju88 for instance.  In SEA events you might fly for an hour and take a shot at a spit on your nose only to hear your external bombs release.  Think how that felt.
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« Reply #67 on: June 05, 2006, 10:48:39 AM »
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The primary/secondary fire buttons was needed on some planes.

The Ju88 for instance.  In SEA events you might fly for an hour and take a shot at a spit on your nose only to hear your external bombs release.  Think how that felt.


You had them under the 'old' system, only way you'd drop external ord was if -

a) You had "fire all" mapped to the main fire button.

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b) You had them selected.
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« Reply #68 on: June 05, 2006, 10:57:27 AM »
That's true Kev but most guys did have fire all selected, that was the default setup.

And all planes, fighter and bombers have a default ordance package pre selected. Anytime you jump to a gun and back to the pilots seat, the default ordance package is selected.  In the Ju88s case it was always the external bombs.  We might debate that the default should have been the internal bombs but that affects other things.
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« Reply #69 on: June 05, 2006, 01:54:47 PM »
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Almost sounds like your gonna make a boxed retail version of AH with full color A3 field and terrain maps, plane guide and so on....

Hell I just gave myself an idea for the color printer here at work I wonder if it does A3 :huh ?........


At least I am not the only one that can see the way this is heading :(

Still just a guess but it sure feels that way... anyone know how many buttons you get on a xbox?

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« Reply #70 on: June 05, 2006, 02:01:23 PM »
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Morph I use CH USB gear (Flightstick, Pro Throttle, Pro Rudders) & XP, and it works fine. I didn't have to do anything, just downloaded and installed the update. I don't use the CH utility, I just use the AH stick mapper. The new version is a lot easier to use - if I can figure it out anybody can.

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I do use CM 2.10, same here import everything works.

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« Reply #71 on: June 05, 2006, 02:06:46 PM »
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At least I am not the only one that can see the way this is heading :(

Still just a guess but it sure feels that way... anyone know how many buttons you get on a xbox?


xBox will support external controllers.

But I doubt that is their goal.

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« Reply #72 on: June 05, 2006, 07:49:42 PM »
Hitech thanks for the update, I know patch time is madness. The idea about one clicking on the mouse would be great. I believe ridler? touched on one point about mouse freelook over riding the hat views. Right now if in free look I cannot pull back on the hat to check 6 and have the hat view take over mouse free look and snap me to a 6 view, then back to center, where mouse look could start again seemlessly. Hoping this is something that is being looked at, and if already touched on konk me in the head with a mallet and tell me to ST*U:). Again, thanks for posting an update.

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« Reply #73 on: June 05, 2006, 07:49:59 PM »
i have a whole case of sam adams, CH gear or mouse, either way, i'm flying tonight. Its going to get messy.
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« Reply #74 on: June 05, 2006, 09:06:20 PM »
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i have a whole case of sam adams, CH gear or mouse, either way, i'm flying tonight. Its going to get messy.



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