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Offline Warspawn

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« on: June 04, 2006, 08:52:22 PM »


Yummy... 37 mm M10 cannon with 58 rounds (as well as 4 x .50's when that was used up) and a maximum speed of 410 mph.  And tons of these were built and used:  over 2,400 in the USSR and some more delivered to the Free French Air Force.

The  A10 version could mount 6 air-to-surface rockets or 3 x 500 lb bombs on centerline and wings.  Or drop tanks.

I've seen some other threads on the P-39; I think this 'bigger brother' version of the Airacobra would be pretty fun to have in the arena.
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2006, 10:37:29 PM »
Unless the M10 was lightyears ahead of the M4, it's crap. You'd be better off throwing rocks at the badguys.

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2006, 12:08:57 AM »
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Unless the M10 was lightyears ahead of the M4, it's crap. You'd be better off throwing rocks at the badguys.

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I believe it was.


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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2006, 12:57:56 AM »
we dont have a ki27 for it to pwn

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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2006, 01:28:32 AM »
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we dont have a ki27 for it to pwn

I highly doubt the P-63 ever met a Ki-27 in combat.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2006, 03:05:33 AM »
i thought that was the only plane it ever met in combat

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2006, 04:00:47 AM »
Really?

I would be surprised if the Japanese had any Ki-27s still in service that late in the war.

Are you sure you're not thinking of the Ki-43?

The Ki-27 was the last fixed gear fighter for the Japanese Army.  The Ki-43 was the fighter that started to replace it before WWII.
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2006, 04:32:35 AM »
hmm... i like it!

sneaky way of getting another !AMERICA PLANE![/b] into the game in a sneaky sneaky soviet disguise!! Excellent!

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2006, 08:26:27 AM »
Kingcobra....mmmm...definate Main Arena aircraft.
Not kidding.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2006, 12:30:18 PM »
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I believe it was.


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I can't seem to find anything on the RoF or MV of the M10. Unless they increased the length of the round over the M4, I'm not sure how they could have improved it that much. I'm guessing that's what they did.

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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2006, 02:02:33 PM »
Linkies:
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p63.html
"Specification of Bell P-63D Kingcobra:

Powerplant: One Allison V-1710-109 (E22) water-cooled engine rated at 1425 hp for take off. Performance: Maximum speed was 437 mph at 30,000 feet, service ceiling was 39,000 feet, and an altitude of 28,000 feet could be reached in 11.2 minutes. Normal range was 950 miles, and maximum ferry range was 2000 miles."

So, MA stuff ;)

(Most sources rate the P63 at 410 mph, but that's MA all right)
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2006, 05:02:43 PM »
According to this page: http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/gustin_military/fgun.html

The M10 was identical in performance to the M4, with only the ammo capacity being increased.

No thanks.

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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2006, 05:07:40 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2006, 05:07:46 PM »
Why not just get the P-63D version with the M9?

"The M9 was a very different weapon. The large cartridge case gave the same HE round as the M4 a considerably higher muzzle velocity. One of the types of ammunition available was a 752g armour-piercing projectile with a muzzle velocity of 930m/s, and at a distance of 460m this penetrated 6cm of armour plate. At the same distance the M4 could penetrate only 2cm of armour. It is obvious that the M9 was much better suited for ground attack; but it seems that the only aircraft in which it was ever fitted was the one-off P-63D."

*edit*grr, never mind.  They only built one D model and then stopped because performance was about the same as the P-51D already flying.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2006, 05:21:44 PM »
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According to this page: http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/gustin_military/fgun.html

The M10 was identical in performance to the M4, with only the ammo capacity being increased.

No thanks.

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I think they made it more reliable.


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