Originally posted by 101ABN
just was thinking about something else this guy said... he stated that he didnt want to go to Iraq because he feels that the war is illegal... but he will go and fight in Afghanistan... why Afghanistan... does he feel that the war there is legal... if i can remember correctly OBL and his group of romper room rejects attacked us on 9-11 not the Taliban... but its ok to topple the government that didnt attack us directly? this guy is clearly scared of getting hurt and possibly killed in Iraq.. i dont see anything wrong with being scared what i do see wrong is this guy making sorry arse excuses to get out of doing his duty..
too many people only see the WMD issue as the cause of the war.. that is not the only reason why the war kicked off.. it seems that the media only talked about it all the time.. all the tree huggers, bush haters, and cindy sheehans rant and rave that the war was illegal because we have not found any WMD... we didnt invade Afghanistan because the Taliban told us to take a hike when we told them to turnover OBL.. we looked behind the scenes of the Taliban.. saw the tourture, murders, and all other criminal activity.. it piled up and we used it all together for justification.. now lets look at ole saddam.. he used chems on folks... ordered the murders of countless people, violated UN sanctions, violated no fly areas countless of times.. so they say the war is illegal... i dont think so, who else was going to do it.. the UN, Saudi, Jordan, France.. ha ha ha.. dont think so. Alot of folks wont agree with my point of view because its not them that is getting chemicals dumped on them, or getting shot in the head for no reason... all is fine and dandy until it happens in our back yards.
wow, i really went off subject here didnt I... ha ha ha... 
You should get out a little more.
We attacked Afghanistan because thats where OBL was based. The Taliban hosted him for some time after the Saudis told him in no uncertain terms to get the F out. Not only was his main base of operations in Afghanistan, but the Taliban refused to give him or his allies up when we came after them. It had nothing to do with daily life under the Taliban, we needed no external justification for war there. The international community agreed and the world backed us up. Even Iran was happy to see those idiots go bye bye.
Saddam was a different story. You can justify things only so far with his "failure to comply" problems. Do I think he needed taking out? Heck yeah. Bush saw he had a flimsy excuse, he had troops in the area, he had momentum, and he used it. The court is still out on whether or not it was legal, but if we are successful at setting up this new govt. and kicking out the insurgents, and helping get the basic infrastructure repaired there, it will go a long way to helping our cause.
Those chemical attacks you keep on about were more than likely Iranian in origin, not Iraqi. Several times the CIA told Bush that it couldnt be determined reliably which country used the chemicals, but it looked better at the time to blame it on Saddam. The breakdown of the chemicals used points more toward an origin in Iran than Iraq though.
Did he kill Iraqis? Absolutely. Was he an egotistical maniac? Very probably. Am I happy to see him gone? Big YES there. But like I said, whether Bush had any legal right to do it or not is still up in the air. There are valid arguments on both sides.
Where does that apply here? I guess it doesnt. Putting all personal feelings aside, he should probably go to jail for refusing to obey orders, and be given a dishonorable discharge. Seems like some of those anti-war wackos have gotten into his head, and he listened. Kiss that career goodbye. But he has to take responsibility for his own actions. Just blaming them wont cut it.
