Originally posted by lazs2
chair... racial discrimination is quite different. To say that gays are being discriminated against in marriage is simplisic and wrong in the extreme.
Anyone is allowed to get married... / ..... It matters not what color or race or religion they are... or even their sexual preference...
In the south in the fifties (and it was going away even then) there were "seperate but equal" ideas floating aroud... colored drinking fountains and back of the bus sort of thing. A person could not drink from a fountain based on color.
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This is not the case with marriage.. anyone can participate... no one cares what your color or whatever is.
lazs
Oh what the hell....
From driftglass: ===========
"And if the only rationale you can conjure is... that “Marriage is the most fundamental institution of civilization, and it should not be redefined by activist judges” - then I commend to your attention the opening lines of the June 12, 1967, Loving v. Virginia decision, which gets referred to a lot in Left Bloggylvania, but not cited verbatim nearly often enough for my tastes, because
here's how it begins. (Emphasis added):
"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."
The law in Virginia as it read provided...
"Punishment for marriage. - If any white person intermarry with a colored person, or any colored person intermarry with a white person, he shall be guilty of a felony and shall be punished by confinement in the penitentiary for not less than one nor more than five years."
And the penalty for leaving the State to evade the law was...
...If any white person and colored person shall go out of this State, for the purpose of being married, and with the intention of returning, and be married out of it, and afterwards return to and reside in it, cohabiting as man and wife, they shall be punished as provided in 20-59, and the marriage shall be governed by the same law as if it had been solemnized in this State. The fact of their cohabitation here as man and wife shall be evidence of their marriage."
What more needs be said?
When the cultural Gladys Kravitzes on the Right stomp into the public square dragging Gay Marriage along behind them, this is what’s really on the menu: Their insatiable appetite to impose their witchbag of hate, squeamishness and childish idiocy on everyone else in the Universe for no reason other than they are hateful, squeamish, childish idiots.
And since there is absolutely no quantifiable harm they can point to (In Loving, the “harm” cited was found in the language of Naim v. Naim which “concluded that
the State's legitimate purposes were "to preserve the racial integrity of its citizens," and to prevent "the corruption of blood," "a mongrel breed of citizens," and "the obliteration of racial pride”…), time and again - from slavery, through Jim Crow, through “Loving” and now with Gay Marriage - you see the same democracy-loathing Red Statists thumping the same Bible, from the same pulpit, to the same squealing mob of culturally malnourished knuckleheads.
Generation after debased generation the disease is passed on, because regardless of where this moral cancer has geographically metastasized over the years, the continuous line of divinely-sanctioned White Male Christian Supremacy that runs from “God, Nooses and Negroes” to “God, Guns and Gays” comes straight out of the spiritual heart of the old Confederacy.
And because there are no tangible, measurable negative consequences, when you take it upon yourself to tell two consenting adults who and how they may marry you will always end up playing the “Almighty God”-card. Either explicitly, or by cowering behind such hollow, bigot-coded and patently ridiculous threats as, "Changing the definition of marriage would undermine the structure of the family."
On this issue - however icky you might personally find the whole idea of boys kissing boys or girls canoodling with girls - you can either be a Good Republican or a Good American,
but you cannot be both.Because when you insist that your perverse view of the Bible gives you the right to smash open Schrodinger's box and dictate who and how two consenting adults may marry, you will always end up standing on the gibbet, slipping the “Loving” rope around Liberty’s throat.
Always.And that is no place that any decent American would ever want to be."
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I know how much he gets some of y'all's nipples all twisted up...
So chew on that.
40 years ago interacial marriage was illegal. A mere fourty years ago!
Anyone opposing this has already lost.
