French Fighters??

[Dace]

Im sure it has been suggested before...but hey,..they did play a part in the early stages of the blizkrieg across france and the low countries. I just hate subbing A/C in scenarios and other events.

[Bruno]

There are no 'Battle of France' aircraft in AH. No matter if their were 'French aircraft' or not in AH you would be subbing LW and RAF aircraft. They either are the wrong variant or wrong performance.

It's a real stretch just to attempt to pull off BoB with the current plane set.

[Blixen]

been asking for this bird

[Blixen]

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[VooWho]

Who cares if a france plane sucked or not, its really not the plane, it is the pilot. I say bring a couple of french planes to AH. I would love to have some french planes. Some of them weren't bad. The book I have called The Encyclopedia of Aircraft says that the Amiot 354 was france's finest bomber during WW2. In my book it says the French plane Bloch MB. 151/152 shot down 146 german planes, 34 probables and only losing 86 during the battle of France, which is a pretty good considering more kills than loses. My book says the Dewoitine D.520 was the best fighter available to the French in May 1940, but sadly a few were issued to the Armee de l'Air before the armistice, but it was still a good fighter considering few being flown. There may be a few good fighters France had, and there may be a few bad ones. But every country has good and bad fighters. But even the bad fighters can be good in the right hands in the right conditions.

Maybe if we got some more early war time fighters from other countries that fought in the war besides, America, Britian, Germany we could find some fighters that could be in the same class as the french fighters. Like the Russian Polikarpov I-16, or the Italian Macchi MC.200 Saetta, or the IAR-80, or the Fokker D.XXI (Which fought against both German, and Russian planes between 1939-40) There are tons of fighters from the early war, but everyone complains about those fighters being either to slow, no good armament, or few saw service. All we have and have been gettign are the more common fighters, and fighters from the mid-late war. But we never get early war fighters. I think its time to add a few early war fighters. We just don't have enough fighters from the early war, that have the same compatition because we don't really have many early war fighters. All I can think of right now is the 109E4, A6M, P40B, Spit1, Hurr1, C.202, and the F4F from the early war. The rest are from like late 41-45. Thats y few fight in earlier modles because theres few to choose from and few that match each other.

Will thats about all I got to say.

[Platano]

THat french plane looks like a cross between a spit and a pony...BTW I would love to have the Romanian IAR-80..

[gatt]

AH is a late war plane set oriented air combat sim. Take a look at the MA, at what people fly, at the lack of a rollin plane set and so on. The green, average and casual player likes late war 2.000hp, cannons monsters.

So HTC is not investing time (money, that is) in modelling early war birds, at least so far ...

[bkbandit]

Yeah i would like to see all ww2 planes in the game but they wont get any burn in m/a.  Its just fatting the list of hanger queens.  Theres a long list of planes that need to be added maybe 90% of them wouldnt be used in m/a. I pretty sure we can all come up with 10 gv/planes that should be added to the game but a good number of these would prob be hanger queens unless there in certain rooms. When is the tour of duty goin to be finished???? I want to play that pacific theater already.

[Platano]

people don't fly early war rides  cuz theres nothing but dweebs running around in spits and lala's...

AvA currently has an early war RPS.... japanese vs allied commonwealths...its prettty nice ya should check it out... its a change of pace from all the lala's ponies and spit16's...

[Loddar]

AvA is a 2nd Duel arena on my opinion. As long I stay in this arena nothing as boring airfights across the coast of britain or in Karelia or ... somwhere else.

I think the AvA arena should be used as a historic arena with historic setups. The players won't do this, so many don't go in because of no organisation i think and so why HT bring in more useless planemodels. Check other post about "more planes", "other planes" and so on. Nothing happened !

MA people love their PonyDs, La7s, Spit16s and Tempests. Why should HT bring in early war rides for a few people. The only thing that change this is that 90% of the MA people change their MA mind and only use early and midwar rides. Then we have a chance to get more other rides.

[VooWho]

It may be true, but pretty soon HTC is ganna run out of late war planes to add, and more people will want something new and all thats left are early war fighters, and bombers. But really the only thing in the hanger list these days are late war fighters, and only a hand full of early fighters. Im not sure how many planes we have on the hanger list, but to me its like 7 to 10% are early war, and 90% is late war. I think we need to start evening the list to 50/50% then everone will be happy. Or do a rotation in new planes added to the game. New then Late, New then late modles. I think the reason we mainly see lalas, and spits, temps, and all those other 43+ planes is because we have more late war fighters than early war fighters. I say even the list.

[Loddar]

I think, HT look on the stats which planes or type of planes do the players like and which one not. Somebody posted that stats list. That's the decision a plane get perked, come into the game, get out of it, and so on. That stats show, with a little difference, the players love late war rides. So why HT model plane types nobody want ? If no one plays late war or 50-50, HT should decide that early war planes come in to let the players be happy again.

[VooWho]

But im just saying thats all that is on the list is late war fighters. When some noob who loves P40s, and decides to take his favorite ride for a dog fight, he comes up against a spit16, La7, and a Tempest. The P40 nut is at the same alt as everone else and engages into the fight, with confendice that he might get some kills, because he thinks he knows his P40 will. Goes in fast passes the tempest, La7 and Spit16 in a HO and pulls vertical, then the next thing he knows he is dead. He wonders how he died, but he thinks he didn't check his 6, to see if there was a 4th fighter. He ups again in his P40 comes up against 3 more late war fighters, and has a little bit more alt, dives in for a HO and pulls vertical, and he checks his 6, to see that the Spit16 that was climbing up to him when he engaged it going 400mph, is catching up to him on his climb up, and gets shot down by the Spit16. When he dies he gets mad, and outrage on how could the spit beat him on climb, if he had alt and speed and the spit was climbing the hole time. So are P40 friend takes a spit16 to fight the spit16 over his base and falls in love with the Spit16 and never touches the P40 again.

I don't know how many times this has happen to me. I admit it, that I would fly a P40 be at higher alt, dive in and pull vertical against a spit16 thats been climbing vertical losing speed the hole time and still manages to beat me in a climb and kill me, and then I would up a late war fighter. This story is to tell u why no one flys early war fighters because the only thing the P40 guy was comming up against was late war fighters, and when he takes one late war fighter up, he sees y everone flys it and falls in love with it. So thats y no one flys the early war fighters, because everone falls in love with the late war modles because everone flys them.

[Platano]

Originally posted by VooWho
But im just saying thats all that is on the list is late war fighters. When some noob who loves P40s, and decides to take his favorite ride for a dog fight, he comes up against a spit16, La7, and a Tempest. The P40 nut is at the same alt as everone else and engages into the fight, with confendice that he might get some kills, because he thinks he knows his P40 will. Goes in fast passes the tempest, La7 and Spit16 in a HO and pulls vertical, then the next thing he knows he is dead. He wonders how he died, but he thinks he didn't check his 6, to see if there was a 4th fighter. He ups again in his P40 comes up against 3 more late war fighters, and has a little bit more alt, dives in for a HO and pulls vertical, and he checks his 6, to see that the Spit16 that was climbing up to him when he engaged it going 400mph, is catching up to him on his climb up, and gets shot down by the Spit16. When he dies he gets mad, and outrage on how could the spit beat him on climb, if he had alt and speed and the spit was climbing the hole time. So are P40 friend takes a spit16 to fight the spit16 over his base and falls in love with the Spit16 and never touches the P40 again.

I don't know how many times this has happen to me. I admit it, that I would fly a P40 be at higher alt, dive in and pull vertical against a spit16 thats been climbing vertical losing speed the hole time and still manages to beat me in a climb and kill me, and then I would up a late war fighter. This story is to tell u why no one flys early war fighters because the only thing the P40 guy was comming up against was late war fighters, and when he takes one late war fighter up, he sees y everone flys it and falls in love with it. So thats y no one flys the early war fighters, because everone falls in love with the late war modles because everone flys them.

Very well said Voowho.....I think HTC should use RPS's as well.. have balanced RPS of early war planes for a couple of days..about 3 or 4 days and Kinda make people get used  them...then  we'll see what happens..