XP Professional fresh install freeze

[Octavius]

Hi all,

I'm attempting to do a fresh install of Win XP Pro on another machine.  I followed the normal procedures on a full NTFS partition - the setup files are copied over, computer reboots and then freezes at the splash screen after two 'cycles' of the blue bar.  I tried an upgrade disk over an existing XP home install, got the same results.  The full version also freezes at the exact moment.

I'm leaning towards some kind of hardware issue.  What is windows doing during the splash screen?  Loading drivers?  The only other thing I can think of would be a faulty HD... but it is unlikely.

Trying XP home to see if I get the same garbage...

[Krusty]

When you get the splash screen, Windows is loading all the drivers and processes it uses. Chances are a hardware conflict if it totally locks up. Not my area of expertise, however.

[Octavius]

It looks like this thing has an Audigy 2ZS, some Radeon AGP card, one 512 DDR stick, and a P4S800 mobo.

Wouldn't windows have reference drivers for these?  



btw, XP Home gives the same result.

I just tried safe mode (didnt think possible before GUI setup stage failed), and it also stopped right after loading Mup.sys.

multi(0)disk(0)partition(1) \WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\Mup.sys

[Roscoroo]

try it with the Audigy card removed

[SOB]

Does that motherboard have an on-board vid card that is enabled?

[38ruk]

I worked on a dell one time that would do the sam thing , it would go through a full format , but when it would restart to do the windows install it would freeze . It showed a BSOD a few times , but not often . Do you have a spare stick of ram to try in it ? AS Roo said , try without the audigy and any other non essential  pci cards in it .  Another thing you could check ,but prolly unlikley , is a heat issue . Jump into the bios and make sure that its not cooking something .


Edit

now that im thinking about it , is it an sata hard drive? If so you might need the drivers for it . I dont know if it would let you format it without the drivers or not so im just throwing this out  there .  Another thing you could try is at the point of where windows starts the install and says press f6 for third party drivers , hit F5 and use the standard PC HAL . You could be having an issue with the acpi HAL that new xp installs default to .  GL

[Roscoroo]

bad/ defective ram can cause that too, or a under powered ps

[Kermit de frog]

I hear dust bunnies are big meanies.

[Roscoroo]

so are lilly pads in your water resevoir.

[Octavius]

Flashed BIOS... works now.  

[[Sg]ShotGun]

Originally posted by Roscoroo
bad/ defective ram can cause that too, or a under powered ps

this is what new current system is telling me during my bad route with trying to do a fresh install of XP  (ie Xp home or pro)  i got the BSOD but with an error message of  Machine-check-exception...which translated bad mem or insufficient PS.   which is almost on the mark...the mem im using is from my ABIT IC7 and the PS is only a 350...my Tt 680 crashed, and im waiting for warranty replacement.

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by Octavius
Hi all,

I'm attempting to do a fresh install of Win XP Pro on another machine.  I followed the normal procedures on a full NTFS partition - the setup files are copied over, computer reboots and then freezes at the splash screen after two 'cycles' of the blue bar.  I tried an upgrade disk over an existing XP home install, got the same results.  The full version also freezes at the exact moment.

I'm leaning towards some kind of hardware issue.  What is windows doing during the splash screen?  Loading drivers?  The only other thing I can think of would be a faulty HD... but it is unlikely.

Trying XP home to see if I get the same garbage...

I would try removing all hardware you don't need to install Windows, even extra RAM.... then give it a shot.

[[Sg]ShotGun]

Originally posted by x0847Marine
I would try removing all hardware you don't need to install Windows, even extra RAM.... then give it a shot.

oh yea, this is what i do each time..dont even install NIC card
till i get the OS up and running..but this time i still get the Machine-check-exception  

[Kev367th]

[Sg]ShotGun

I'm assuming from your PM you have a FX chip?

If so that with a graphics card is really going to strain a 350W PSU.

I would recommend trying at least a 400W, pref 500W PSU, will hopefully get rid of your installation woes.

Look out for -
If a dual rail PSU - Get one with at least 16-18 amps on each +12V rail.
If single rail PSU - Get one with at least 30-36 amps on the +12V  rail.

My poor old Antec 350W with 16 amps on a single +12V rail couldn't get close to running my setup properly.
Now using an Enermax 500W with dual +12V rails @22 amps each.

Specs for the amps are usually on a sticker on the side of the PSU, the +12V rail has become increasingly important.

[[Sg]ShotGun]

Originally posted by Kev367th
[Sg]ShotGun
I'm assuming from your PM you have a FX chip?
If so that with a graphics card is really going to strain a 350W PSU.
I would recommend trying at least a 400W, pref 500W PSU, will hopefully get rid of your installation woes.
Look out for -
If a dual rail PSU - Get one with at least 16-18 amps on each +12V rail.
If single rail PSU - Get one with at least 30-36 amps on the +12V  rail.
My poor old Antec 350W with 16 amps on a single +12V rail couldn't get close to running my setup properly.
Now using an Enermax 500W with dual +12V rails @22 amps each.
Specs for the amps are usually on a sticker on the side of the PSU, the +12V rail has become increasingly important.

my Tt 680 crashed, and I was attempting to install just XP using the 350w from my old computor, i intend to use the warrenty replaced Tt 680 for the nu computor.