Author Topic: Hurricane (Read 3325 times)

BugsBunny · « **Reply #45 on:** June 21, 2006, 08:15:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Warspawn
Was just saying several pilots that faced them said they sucked at dogfighting .

Isn't this true in AH also? They are dead meat after the second turn. All you have to do is slow them down. The only reason I find them deadly here is when they come in behind a Spit, that is behind a lala, etc, and you are figting someone else.

Also, the very real life ability to spray with the 4 20mms from 400 to 600 out while twisting and turning. If it was not for the guns, no one would be flying them.

Cept that girl from Germany. Hmmmm, why isn't she in a 109 anyway?

zorstorer · « **Reply #46 on:** June 21, 2006, 04:39:15 PM »

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Originally posted by BugsBunny
...Cept that girl from Germany. Hmmmm, why isn't she in a 109 anyway?

She likes it old school

Schatzi is her name and her game is the hurri mk1, a sweet beast indeed

hubsonfire · « **Reply #47 on:** June 22, 2006, 01:23:46 AM »

The timer for editting has passed, so I have to compose another reply.

Upon looking through stats, Ralem has accumulated 5 entire kills in the Hurricane, and has been executed only 3 times. If you ignore the 3 deaths, he's practically a real ace, and we should accept that he just knows a lot more about the Hurricane as it is modelled in AH2 than does anyone else.

I apologize for thinking you were just an idiot who was whining about something which he was simply unable to comprehend, or pass judgement on.

Schatzi · « **Reply #48 on:** June 22, 2006, 03:06:29 AM »

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Originally posted by bozon
I consider Hurries poor zoomers. It is one of the few planes I feel confident to drag into a high speed dive and zoom in my P47. Most planes outzooms a P47, the hurri isn't one of them.

Do not confuse helicopter properties with E retantion. What makes it dangerous in a rope is it's ability to keep the nose up at very low speeds while you already stalled. From your cockpit it looks as if the hurri is still climbing but mostly it is you that fall down relative to it.

If you really want to make a case, run a few zoom tests and post the results.

Bozon

I agree. I do not know other planes all to well, but i do know my AH HMk1. Once you go down, you stay there. Theres not much of a "zoom" back up. Since in a dive youll be hard pressed to exceed 400 mph, you wont have much speed to sustain your zoom to begin with. Add the thick wings and the fact that the Hurri is relatively large a plane....

Whisky58 · « **Reply #49 on:** June 22, 2006, 02:22:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Slash27
Mad about that tie with Sweden or what?

Ghana? - did somebody mention Ghana?

PS - for pity's sake put them away before someone gets hurt.

RALEM · « **Reply #50 on:** June 23, 2006, 03:40:14 PM »

sorry didnt wanna offend all the hurri2c pilots:aok

Furball · « **Reply #51 on:** June 23, 2006, 03:45:41 PM »

AI AM THE HURRICANE KIIIIEEEEEEEEEENG!!!1!

Schatzi · « **Reply #52 on:** June 23, 2006, 05:33:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Furball

AI AM THE HURRICANE KIIIIEEEEEEEEEENG!!!1!

Youre already the Queen N1k dweeb and the Val Goddess... what more?

doogan · « **Reply #53 on:** June 24, 2006, 12:49:49 AM »

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Originally posted by hubsonfire
The timer for editting has passed, so I have to compose another reply.

I apologize for thinking you were just an idiot who was whining about something which he was simply unable to comprehend, or pass judgement on.

~~hubsonfire, superstar.~~

Bruv119 · « **Reply #54 on:** June 24, 2006, 03:49:58 AM »

The hurricane model is spot on.

When flying a hurricane you can't dictate a fight only the stupid people who try a sustained turn fight get killed.

If you try to catch anything you will compress easily and the thing handles like a shopping trolley.

If you see a hurricane above you just walk away and you wont get hurt.

The guns deadly.

so luftwhiners just do what ya do best and RUN!

Bruv
~S~

Furball · « **Reply #55 on:** June 24, 2006, 04:30:54 AM »

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Originally posted by Bruv119
The hurricane model is spot on.

When flying a hurricane you can't dictate a fight only the stupid people who try a sustained turn fight get killed.

i would go as far as saying anyone that carelessly attacks a hurricane gets killed. it is the perfect plane for forcing the overshoot and taking the snapshot.

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Originally posted by Schatzi
Youre already the Queen N1k dweeb and the Val Goddess... what more?

i drive a mean jeep!!

storch · « **Reply #56 on:** June 24, 2006, 06:39:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Bruv119

so luftwhiners just do what ya do best and RUN!

Bruv
~S~

should I post some film of your lame bellybutton running away? I have several.

Angus · « **Reply #57 on:** June 24, 2006, 08:04:03 AM »

What did the BoB Hurricanes have on the BoB Spitfires?
1. More of them.
2. More rugged.
3. More groundcrew trained in the rigging of the older construction.
4. Better cone of fire and more stable gun platform.
5. Better roll rate.
6. Better turn rate.
7. Better view over the wing.

What did they have inferior?
1. Speed
2. ROC if anything.
3. Compressibility.
4. Dive acceleration.
5. Departure characteristics.

Tuck felt the Hurricane to be like an old pulling horse compared to the Spit.
T.E. Jonsson noted that the Hurricane had a very good rate of roll and similar stick forces for roll and pitch, but alas, slower and would compress.

By the time the Hurry IIC comes out, it's a mean one, but no match in speed and climb for the 109F which comes a tad later (?).
But ponder on it a minute. Compare the Hurry IIC to the Rata, the 109E, the C200, the P40, the KI27 (?), even the Yak-1, LaGG-3, and some others from the spring-summer of 1941 serving within the same timeframe, and it's not bad at all performancewise while packing 4x20 mm's!
Like furbie said, don't screw up if you fight a hurry

Angus · « **Reply #58 on:** June 25, 2006, 04:48:11 PM »

A little add on on the Hurricane.
When retreating from Norway, the Brits wanted some Hurricanes out. They field-modded some Hurry I's (sandbags in aft fuselage) and sent them off to land on a CV. All landed safely, - none of the pilots having done anything of the sort before.
The CV got sunk en route, - all Hurricanes lost and most of the pilots.
So, you gurus, CV's name please and a pilot name that was a survivor

Krusty · « **Reply #59 on:** June 25, 2006, 05:07:00 PM »

I know Cross survived, as did "Jamie" Pat Jameson.

Fighter command was desperate for hurricance that early in the war (before the spit1 even was around) that they attemped what was supposed to be impossible -- carrier landing hurricanes.

Author Topic: Hurricane (Read 3325 times)

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