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« on: May 17, 2001, 12:42:00 PM »

And write your congressman to speak up about the Disclosure Project.

We owe ourselves to at least read this paper and make adult decisions about it when we have fully understood what is going on. If we dont we will simply pass this impending disaster on to our next generation.

Please visit the website and read the Executive Summmary or at least the Introduction, I guarantee It will make you read the whole paper and maybe even buy the book.
 www.disclosureproject.org

Thanks, Nefari


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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2001, 04:52:00 PM »
UFOs? You gotta be toejamtin' me. Right... UFOs here in the United States. ...and they obviously must contact the U.S. government because we are obviously the defacto leaders of the world. Right... okay...

No one is going to travel a minimum of four light years so they can abduct George and Martha from their Rambler.

...which brings me to another point... why is it that no one is ever abducted from a BMW?

HAHAHA!

Oh... and before you get your panties in a bunch. I absolutely believe that there is life on other planets other than Earth. I simply don't believe they have ever been here. Read this: http://www.sciam.com/2000/0700issue/0700crawford.html

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2001, 11:25:00 PM »
Did you read the paper?

The top 25 wealthiest families hold as much money as 2.5 Billion of our (worldly) poorest citezens. How hard is to believe?

So what do you think? do you actually think us a humans are going to last another 50-100 years with out some kind of "free" energy? GWBush is proposing an energy plan saying "We are going to face a worse energy crisis than the 1970 Oil Embargo", Were gonna drill the Alaskan Wilderness for Oil!!

And he plans on spending $2 billion on research for Clean-Coal...Do you really think 2 Billion is gonna buy our energy Miracle Savior? What will happen when countries like China and India are fully developed? China and Oil will be the largest buyers of Fossil Fuels in the world...Our EcoSystem could not handle it.

Secrets withheld by our Government could save us, and it is time the public who funds all these illegal, unconstitounal, operations/experiments to know what in the hell is going on...Why would they keep it secret? The Trillion dollar a year energy industry doesnt want to see the collapse of thier finacial dynasties. And it would expose one of the largest conspiracies in recorded history.

Please do the whole world a favor and read the paper.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2001, 06:44:00 AM »
I have a hard time reading beyond statements such as:

 
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That we are indeed being visited by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations and have been for some time;

IMHO, Steven M. Greer is nothing but an alarmist crank.

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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2001, 09:03:00 AM »
 No time for expanded reply now, just an observation. If alien visitors wanted us (the general public) to know about them, wouldn't they find a way to make it so?

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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2001, 01:01:00 PM »
 I had a few minutes to review that stuff.

 Assuming UFOs and extraterrestrials and their technology do exist.

 Apparently the authors consider it bad to shoot down UFOs (ETVs) for plunder.
 If so, we should forget about using technology that we found on the ETVs we happened to shoot down. If they want to give the technology to us, they can easily do so. If they don't, stealing their technology is not going to make a positive impression on them.

 For ETs providing us with technology as a way of survival is equivalent to making us their pets. I am sure that if they flew all the way here and they needed pets, they could get much nicer and less messier ones then humans. If some pervert ETs do want to keep some human pets, they would probably keep abducting single backcountry humans rather then feeding and housing the whole planetfull. In that light it makes sence them not abducting prominent scientists, financieres and politicians - those are boring. Would you choose Alan Greenspan as a pet or some backcountry bimbo?  

 The powerfull secret clique is the best depository for all super-technology I could think of. They are most likely powerfull, intelligent, educated and stable people that would not feel a need to blow up a planet without a good reason. Kind of like a monarchy or oligarchy. Interested in preserving the planet for their children.
 On the other hand, giving a source of unlimited power to anyone asking for it is bound to end in someone blowing us all up.
 Of course the authors mention control, but do you realise what kind of control would be needed considering that the stake is a total annihilation of the planet? Total police state! No democracy whatsoever, total surveilance, thought/emotion monitoring, isolation/elimination of mentally unstable or politically radical people, etc.

 I guess that evil clique that has the technology does not want that to happen. They also do not take over the power overtly with all their super-weapons. So they probably like to keep as much democracy as possible considering the circumstances.
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 Antigravity, zero-state energy:
 Energy is directly linked to mass and curvature of space. Do I want some neighbour's kid tinkering with the curvature of space I live in and/or affecting the mass of the Earth every time he rolls his hovercraft out of his garage? I don't think so...

 As for disclosure, how about disclosing to people that contrary to many religious books, there is a pretty good evidence that Earth has existed for longer then 5 thousand years?
 That info is freely available and many people do not really care or assume it's god's will for it to appear so, so why would anybody be interested in extra-terrestrials?
 For religious people, everything is in His power.
 For the rest of us, ETs will announce themselves when they see fit.
 If you believe in that technology and want it, why don't you go into science and try to discover it yourself?
 If the Earth is in danger from our activities and you care to save it, you should not rely on outside help. For all we know, ETs are just waiting for us to die out naturaly while their sub-light colonizers are on the way...

 Also, there will always be powerfull people and less powerfull people. That is the law of nature.

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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2001, 04:16:00 PM »

The elite who own these technologies do not want to expose this for thier loss of power...

The energy industry would collapse if thier was "free energy"

If you were to visit a civiliztion similar to ours (capable to destroy worlds) then you would see them as a threat, like our government and other instituitions do. I know If I was an Alien I would not want to interfere with what goes on here, for fear of destruction or destroying them.

Keeping the Technology secret is what the Government and all the other goons want. They have the money to influence whoever is in charge, and it appears that it is going to stay secret.


So what do you think is going to happen?

tell me what the future is going to be like?

Without this technology we as a race will not survive...
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2001, 04:21:00 PM »
 
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 IMHO, Steven M. Greer is nothing but an alarmist crank.

thats what they said about Copernicus or Gallieo...

Dude your very close minded...

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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2001, 05:27:00 AM »
Black hellicopters there yet ?

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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2001, 08:49:00 AM »
Comparing this Greer bloke to Copernicus and Galileo is as far fetched as the theories he espouses.

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2001, 12:38:00 PM »
Neg Saintaw, our Evil Atheist Conspiracy Black Chopper Division is currently operating elsewhere.

This is a secret, but I hear they're doing some cover ops with the Underwater Demolision Divion (the one who sunk the Ark II, with all the dinos on it)

 

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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2001, 10:39:00 AM »
 
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thats what they said about Copernicus or Gallieo...

Dude your very close minded...


That's a riot. Of course, I won't be around to collect but I'll bet (rather heavily) that in 50 years, you won't find Greer's name next to Gallieo and Copernicus in the annals of history and science.

I really can't understand those that absolutely must have a "supreme being". we have the standard variety religious types and now we also have the cranks that have studied just enough science to discount the existence of a god and have now placed their faith on extra terrestrials to prove the inferiority of homo sapiens.

Years ago, cranks like Greer were CERTAIN that man could not have created the Great Pyramids. "They are too large! It would take too many people! yada yada yada." The truth is HOMO SAPIENS DID IT. It's an engineering achievement rarely paralleled on this planet but WE DID IT (oh and the Egyptians PAID the workers too). Hell... if you do the research, you'll see how.

It's a laugh. Supposedly, there is this superior ET species on this planet capable of space travel in distances we are just beginning to understand, but can't get the truth out because the United States government won't let them.

On a purely economic perspective, I can't understand why an extra terrestrial would expend the amount of energy it takes to travel to the Earth (a minimum of 4 light years) and then doesn't strip mine this rock and enslave all of the pitiful ape-descended life forms (that still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea).

Oh... and one other thing. If the United States possesses the ability to shoot down extra terrestrial space craft, I rather doubt we would have to worry about pissant aging Chinese fighters running into our surveillance aircraft.

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