Author Topic: Airplane update (Read 1484 times)

Maverick · « **Reply #60 on:** July 13, 2006, 01:48:38 PM »

Well heck chairboy lets look at this situation. You got into an aircraft, flew it, did some low speed and low alt attitude recoveries and landed the plane with the end result that you are healthy and the plane does not require repairs to fly again. Sounds pretty successful to me. Not necessarily smart now, but successful. Now if you don't do the same kind of thing again, you can even claim it as educational.

Golfer · « **Reply #61 on:** July 13, 2006, 02:07:36 PM »

I'd be more than happy to fly with you in something along the lines of an Aeronca Chief or a Supercub. Take you out on windy days and make you keep one main wheel down for the length of the runway.

Hopefully now you'll see why I'm skeptical of the whole LSA/ultralight thing. You get guys with zero or next to no training flying manned kites with no experience to draw upon.

Having flown a few ultralights I like to think I know a little something.

The Light-Sport is best used as a sanctuary for certificated pilots who want to use their drivers license as a medical. I mean do you really want the same guy who takes his camaro 120mph to walmart to be sharing the same skies as you?

There are going to be some people who take it seriously but with so little training no matter how serious they are won't make up for lack of skill when they paint themselves into a corner.

This isn't a dig but take yourself.

A 100hr private pilot who knows almost enough to kill himself takes the prized grail of LSA airplanes up for a spin. I certainly hope you realize how easy it would have been for the situation to end up very very different.

I've flown with 3000hr pilots with multiple type ratings in a 90kt Chief. They couldn't taxi with any level of smoothness, takeoff was hair raising and forget about landing without several attempts and lots of auctioneer paced instructions being spit out by me. "riiirudder riirudder do i hear riirudder have riiirudder lookin' for lefrudder lefrudder little more lefrudder SOLD!"

After 10 hours or so I'd sign them off to fly the airplane. Included in all this is basically what the FAA says and my own requirements. Wheel landings, 3 point landings, normal/xwind landings. Rejected landings/takeoffs. I do require them to show me with consistancy the ability to hold one wheel on the runway centerline, transition to the other wheel and then back to both mains. At that point they have the coordination and skill required that I can confidently say to the airplane owner that it will come back undamaged.

Now a Pitts...that's a whole new ball game. Two bounces on the mains and then prop meets pavement on the third. Mars can tell you all about it since I have a very modest know-nothing 25ish hours in them.

Aaaaaanyways the tailwheel airplane is something to respect if all you've flown are tricycle gear airplanes...as you've learned. Now don't do it again, damnit.

jigsaw · « **Reply #62 on:** July 13, 2006, 02:16:53 PM »

Chairboy, up until this point I'd thought of you as a NTSB report waiting to happen. Hopefully this experience has opened your eyes and you'll prove me wrong.

deSelys · « **Reply #63 on:** July 13, 2006, 04:02:36 PM »

Chairboy that was a funny write-up but if I was you I would slow down and listen to the experienced ones before they start calling you the DGIT or decide to organize an O'Club crash bingo.

eagl · « **Reply #64 on:** July 13, 2006, 04:39:39 PM »

Chairboy,

Don't listen to the scolding sallys... Back "in the day" (not my day, but you know, BACK THERE in that other day), new pilots would often solo after as few as 3 flights and were considered "pilots" in just a dozen or two. Those guys flew primitive tailwheel (or tailskid) aircraft with no gauges at all, and guess what... Most of them made it. You already have almost as much flight time as many WWII fighter pilots had when they flew their first combat sortie.

So yea take your lessons learned (windsock check on downwind?) and apply them to the rest of your flying career, but don't let the sisters here get you down. You did that "pilot stuff" when you needed to, and that's alright.

Debonair · « **Reply #65 on:** July 13, 2006, 05:35:09 PM »

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Originally posted by eagl
... Back "in the day" (not my day, but you know, BACK THERE in that other day), new pilots would often solo after as few as 3 flights and were considered "pilots" in just a dozen or two. Those guys flew primitive tailwheel (or tailskid) aircraft with no gauges at all, and guess what... Most of them made it...

not true
those guys are all dead

cpxxx · « **Reply #66 on:** July 13, 2006, 07:30:21 PM »

Great story, just like 'I learned about flying from that' in FLYING magazine. But one thing, I'm sure it was Mrs Wasp not Mr. Which makes sense when you think about it. You were messing about with her home, no female likes that human or insect