What campain issues effect you the most

[1776]

Let me ask once again, why haven't we seen a middle class tax cut proposed by the Clinton-Gore team????

You should be able to answer that simple question!!!  In 1992 Clinton-Gore promised that cut!!!

(Hint: Dems think all money belongs to the government)

This is just one question I would like you Clinton-Gore supporters to answer.

We will move on to other questions if you can provide an answer


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[1776]

I see no one has answered(not at all surprised!!)  I will answer it for you then

Clinton-Gore just don't have the ability to tell the truth!!  Not when they are campaigning or governing("I did not have sexual relations withe that women, Ms Lewinsky")

[Yeager]

Yeah, a middle class tax cut and the government has collected billions more than required by the fiscal budgets!

Robbery?

Everytime the congress tried to free up some money to give back top the people, the president vetoed the bill.

Y

[1776]

This same President who denies you your own money is also expecting an apology from the people for impeachment!!!!

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[Eagler]

 

Originally posted by SR:
"I can't afford another Bush economy. Pick Democrats"

This says it all for me .

 I do remember what it's like not having full employment at work . It wasn't pretty . Better now , much better  

You do realize that this economy is not Clinton's doing. It is policies and procedures set in place by Reagan and then Bush. Since when does something happen that fast in politics or business which an administration would see in its own term? Never. Just as Clinton's short comings will fall on the next admin thus they will be credited with the failure though it was set in motion by the last eight years of poor government/choices.

Get a grip

Eagler

[Udie]

 Funny how do democrat ever brings up the first 2 years of Clinton/Gore, you know when the democrats controlled the executive AND legislative branches.  They didn't do squat but raise taxes, even on the elderly, and try and take over the healthcare system.  The economy was starting to improve in late 91 and 92, at least here in Tx. Realy it started getting better in late 89 early 90 in Houston.  

 Udie

[F4UDOA]

Gents,

I don't know why you republicans are still in luv with Bush because of his Middle class tax cut plan. I just watched Rep Sen. John Mcain and Dem Sen. Kerry on CNBC talking about how 40% of the surplus has already been spent by your your Republican congress.
Yes it's true, it gone, 40% gone.
Do you think George W. doesn't know that? But yet he can't seem to stop promising everybody that money. Do you call that a lie? At least Gore isn't promising people money that doesn't exist. I guess that is what the definition of an honest republican canadate. What do you think of your canidate now that you will get NO tax break? Is he lying about anything else?

The School vouchers are a clear violation of the serparation between church and state. Plain and simple. Especially when it undermines the public school system. Why would you give tax money to some of the wealthiest orginizations in the world today?
Not only are these religious groups wealthy they don't pay taxes and they lobby the congress and George W. So they get goverment money. Gee no taxes and get to teach whatever garbadge they see fit as an eductaion.
And oh yeah, they can discriminate who they want and who they don't want, leaving the public schools with they troubled kids while only admitting the teachable ones. Which is exactly what those schools do now BTW. Great plan!!!
You guy's are a riot. Especially coming from George W. who is Governer in the worst educated state in the USA.

Later
F4UDOA

[Eagler]

 

Originally posted by F4UDOA:
Gents,

I don't know why you republicans are still in luv with Bush because of his Middle class tax cut plan. I just watched Rep Sen. John Mcain and Dem Sen. Kerry on CNBC talking about how 40% of the surplus has already been spent by your your Republican congress.
Yes it's true, it gone, 40% gone.
Do you think George W. doesn't know that? But yet he can't seem to stop promising everybody that money. Do you call that a lie? At least Gore isn't promising people money that doesn't exist. I guess that is what the definition of an honest republican canadate. What do you think of your canidate now that you will get NO tax break? Is he lying about anything else?

I'm not counting on anything back. I just want them to stop taking it!


The School vouchers are a clear violation of the serparation between church and state. Plain and simple. Especially when it undermines the public school system. Why would you give tax money to some of the wealthiest orginizations in the world today?
Not only are these religious groups wealthy they don't pay taxes and they lobby the congress and George W. So they get goverment money.

WRONG!!!
It's my money! I worked for it not the fat arse politicians. Yes, if I could I would take MY money and put MY child into a private school as the public school system SUCKS!

Gee no taxes and get to teach whatever garbadge they see fit as an eductaion.
And oh yeah, they can discriminate who they want and who they don't want, leaving the public schools with they troubled kids while only admitting the teachable ones. Which is exactly what those schools do now BTW. Great plan!!!

The trash is being taught in the public schools, you have it backwards. And the troublesome kids is another reason I prefer my child in a private school. When was the last time you heard of a Catholic School shooting?


You guy's are a riot. Especially coming from George W. who is Governer in the worst educated state in the USA.

Later
F4UDOA

F4DOA please use the spell checker, are you a product of the lovely public school system?

Eagler

[1776]

It's amazing how CNN is now starting to talk about the homeless and that we are all one paycheck from being homeless!!!

I think they know that Bush has won and the House and Senate will be republican.

We haven't heard of the homeless for 7 or so years.  Why all of sudden are we now hearing about them???  Didn't Clinton-Gore fix that!!???!!

Of course not!!!  Democrats can't fix anything because a resolution to problems would mean they are no longer needed!!

For 50 years now the Dems have been able to count on the Black vote.  You would think by now that the Blacks would see that the Dems will only provide crumbs to Black America.  A real resolution to race relations wouldn't  help the Dems as it would take away
part of their easily scared base!!  Same thing for Social Security, Dems want no resolution as they need to scare all retirees in order to remain in power!!!

Democrats are the party of fear and misery!!
The more they can spread the happier they are!!

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[Ice]

F4UDOA.....


There is a difference between a tax deduction and a Tax Credit...Gores proposal and the offering of it to the public throughout his campaign is pure deception.

People believe like yourself that they can write off 10k from taxable income...not true...10k equates to an additional $800.00 actual deduction in addition to the current $2200.00 deduction allowed.

Vote for who you may, but save us the crap about Clinton/Gore being responsible for the economy...just the fact that you believe they are responsible for our economic growth shows me how very little you understand why we have experienced growth in the first place.

I would share facts with you, however, you have a closed mind and would not falter from the party line I'm sure  

Whoever is the next president, will have the helm when the economy adjusts itself downward and reflects a more true value of itself...neither men would be responsible for this correction as neither would be responsible for its growth....all of us working each day along with the advent of new innovations in the high tech sectors and the growth of secondary markets are what will determine our economic health.

Wish ya the best my liberal friend....hopefully someday you will realize that what is earned is sweeter than what is free  

Ice

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[F4UDOA]

Eagler,

 

I'm not counting on anything back. I just want them to stop taking it!

Which part of "They already spent the money"
Didn't you understand? The republican congress already spent your precious tax cut.

 

WRONG!!!
It's my money! I worked for it not the fat arse politicians. Yes, if I could I would take MY money and put MY child into a private school as the public school system SUCKS!

If you want to send your money to a wealthy religious/political group be my guest. But don't send one penny of my money with it. Remeber that little church and state rule? Go ahead and send all of your money there. I'm sure Jerry Farwell(Non tax paying multi-millionare) will spend it on a new house or boat or something. He will pray for you. You need it.

 

The trash is being taught in the public schools, you have it backwards. And the troublesome kids is another reason I prefer my child in a private school. When was the last time you heard of a Catholic School shooting?

Trash in public schools? Like evolution?
BTW, that's why they call them private schools, Private money. Public schools, public money. Get it? School shootings you say? Well that is a product of the one part of the constitution that you can remember. Although the "well regulated" and the "militia" part you can't seem to remember very well. Maybe one reason why you don't have student violence in Catholic schools is because all of the teenage boys are being anally violated and unable to reach their guns? Oops, I forgot. The Church doesn't like to talk about that.

 

F4DOA please use the spell checker, are you a product of the lovely public school system?

Why yes I am. A very successfull one too. Philadelphia Public schools. So spelling isn't my strong suit. But you seem to have trouble with reading and comprehension. But I don't think they teach the constitution or the bill of rights in those fancy private schools. BTW, you mispelled my name. It's F4UDOA.

Later
F4UDOA

 



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[Eagler]

Originally posted by F4UDOA:
Maybe one reason why you don't have student violence in Catholic schools is because all of the teenage boys are being anally violated and unable to reach their guns? Oops, I forgot. The Church doesn't like to talk about that.

You are sick and a waste of my time. I will refrain from responding to anymore of your posts as I now consider the source.

Eagler

[1776]

Bush's proposals to let the people control more of their own money is going to make America Boom!!!  I have checked out the Bush web site with its tax calculator and I will be able to make an additional house payment each year!!  That isn't chicken feed!!!  Others will spend theirs on goods which in turn will create new jobs and businesses which in turn will create additional revenues for Government which in turn will create additional tax reductions!!!!! This is a win win situation for the American people and their government!!

Now if we are able to invest part of our Social Security.......that money will also be poured into the economy!!!  I see only boom times ahead!!!

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[Fatty]

F4U, vouchers are the same thing as scholarships, which we already have consitution or no.  They are not sponsoring private schools, they are providing families with the means to help their children attend a good school.

Sure some public schools are great.  Others are beyond pitiful.  The problem is people are stuck with no choice, and the school's quality typically mirrors the area's economic standing, poor area=no voting power=no improved school.  I don't expect that to change with EITHER party, but at least the republicans are looking at giving their kids somewhere better to go to school.

You notice the President and Vice President's kids don't go to public school.  Welp, I never said they were stupid.

And F4U, easy on the graphic accusations, your paranoia is showing.

[F4UDOA]

Ice,

I completely understand the difference between a tax credit and a tax deduction. That is what angers me about the republicans. Take your partisan hat off and follow between the two scenario's.

1. Democrat tax credit= A 10,000 tax deduction on your tax form at the end of the year. That money only benifits the tax payer. If are paying a morgage, that 10,000 dollar tax credit can make you almost 2,000 dollars in your refund check. I am basing this on my last years taxes and how much I would have saved if I were declaring 10,000 dollars less. It's like putting another entire 401K deduction in your taxes.

2. Republican Tax voucher= The Government sends a $500 dollar check to the private school of your choice.
A. This money will never see your pocket.

B. $500 will not pay the tuition of any private school. So this will only affect people that can already afford to send their children to private schools.

C. Their is no garauntee that these schools will not raise their prices just to "gouge" more money from the Goverment and to make sure that border line lower income families will not be able to afford tuition.

D. It is a clear violation Of "Church and State". Their already was a time in history where all education was done by the church. It was called the "Dark Ages". More recently in this country we are 100 years from the Salem Witch burnings. So I think the religious groups in the world have already proven that they are incapable of being responsable for the education of people. They are certainly not known for their acceptance of new idea's. Just ask Copernicus or Galileo.

Thanks
F4UDOA

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