What campain issues effect you the most

[F4UDOA]

How come nobody ever wants to talk about the deviant behavior in some of the religious institutions today? Why do people become offended that I bring it up, but they condone that behavior by supporting these groups and their total unwillingness to deal with the situation. I apologize if my analogy was to graphic for some, but the fact remains that this is a problem with many of these institutions. And the larger problem is the cover up that goes along with it. This is exactly why tax dollars should not go to an unregulated group with no accountability to the public.

BTW, Fatty. The Pesident and the VP send their kids to private schools because they can afford it. That is why they are private. Public schools are offered to people who cannot. I would like to own a warbird but I wouldn't ask the government to help me pay for it.

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[Gunthr]

Ok, I'll discuss it:

Question: Why do Rabbi's like to do circumcisions?

Answer: Because they get to keep the tips...


 

[F4UDOA]

1776,

Do you remember Reagans trickle down economics? That really made the economy boom didn't it? It didn't work because he forgot one thing. The greed of the wealthy and their unwillingness to let anything trickle down.

But the most important thing for you to remember is this. That tax calculator on Bushes web page is a joke. The money he wants to give you for a tax break has already been spent by the Republcan congress this year. 40% Gone according to Republcan Sen. John MCain and Dem. Sen. Kerry. Whatever he has promised you is gone. Also the money he says he wants to put into his social security plan is gone. It was to come from the same budget surplus as the tax cut.
Do you think he doesn't know that? Just maybe he's saying these things because he knows he can't possibly deliver? You will see none of this budget weather he gets elected or not. It's all election babble.
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Later
F4UDOA

[F4UDOA]

Gunthr,

Very good information there. Did you learn that in slip and fall school?

[Gunthr]

A Jewish mother transfers her son, who is doing very poorly in his Jewish school, to a Catholic school where his grades suddenly and dramatically improve.

Mama: My son, how is it that you are doing so much better in this Catholic school?

Boy: Mama, when those nuns showed me that poor boy up on there on that cross, I knew that they meant business.    

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By the way, I went to Catholic parochial school. Public school kids in the neighborhood called us "tie-boys" and "curtain crawlers". I went to Mass every morning from 1st to 12th  grade. I was an alter boy. I used to jab my buddies in the neck with the gold palette or whatever you call it, as the priest served them communion. I was never sodomized, but one of the priests in our parish was rumored to have a bit of a drinking problem. I always watched him close when he drank the sacramental wine, thinking I would be able to tell if he was a crocky or not, but he hid it well. He finally did have to go and get dried out.

That is the most sordid thing that went on in my Catholic upbringing. I got used to the nuns, and I did wind up with quite a good education.

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[LJK Raubvogel]

 

Maybe one reason why you don't have student
                    violence in Catholic schools is because all of the teenage boys are being anally violated
                    and unable to reach their guns? Oops, I forgot. The Church doesn't like to talk about
                    that.

<sarcasm>Wow-your opinions really matter to me now.</sarcasm> *shakes head in disgust*


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[F4UDOA]

I smell a thread-jacker.

Did you ever play hide the sacrament with your favorite Priest? I hear that's a big one with the kids these days.

BTW, what kind of school would you have to be in to get to play with snakes and roll around on the floor shaking? Are they Baptist?

Also do they have school nurses in the Christian Science schools? Or do they just let the kid die right there?

Does L. Ron Hubbard accept school vouchers?
Does Dianetics have Pre-K?  

[LJK Raubvogel]

 

Originally posted by F4UDOA:
I smell a thread-jacker.

Did you ever play hide the sacrament with your favorite Priest? I hear that's a big one with the kids these days.

BTW, what kind of school would you have to be in to get to play with snakes and roll around on the floor shaking? Are they Baptist?

Also do they have school nurses in the Christian Science schools? Or do they just let the kid die right there?

Does L. Ron Hubbard accept school vouchers?
Does Dianetics have Pre-K?  

You are a real piece of work. You prove your ignorance more with each post. There are plenty of private schools that are not affiliated with religion in any way. Also, instead of posting all the negative stereotypes you can fabricate on private schools, why not post some of the positive aspects? How about the fact that over 90% of the students that graduated from the Catholic schools I attended went on to attend college.
What do you suppose the national average is? If you have nothing constructive to contribute, you should consider not revealing any more of your ignorance. I'm not really sure what any of your snipes at religious schools have to do with the election. It seems like you have some personal issues to deal with.



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[Fatty]

 

BTW, Fatty. The Pesident and the VP send their kids to private schools because they can afford it. That is why they are private. Public schools are offered to people who cannot. I would like to own a warbird but I wouldn't ask the government to help me pay for it.

This is where the democrats and I disagree the most.  I would prefer spending my tax money to enable people a quality education and in doing so the ability to function and earn a quality living.  They would evidently prefer lower income families be kept in their own schools, and we'll just give them government programs later when they're adult and illiterate.  Giving you an airplane is not quite the same thing.

[1776]

I have heard that there is going to be such a huge turnout to vote that only Republicans are to vote on Tuesday.  Democrats are to vote Wednesday.

 

[Toad]

 

Originally posted by Igloo:
Toad, have you ever voted Democrat?

Yes. In fact, despite your amusing attempts to paint me as an unthinking Republican party zombie, I have only voted for the Republican Presidential Candidate in 4/8 Presidential elections.

Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains. "
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

[F4UDOA]

Gee 1776 you are to smart for me. I heard that George W. was a drug abusing drunk until the age of 40, then failed in three busineses and bought a baseball team. Oh yeah, that's true.


LJK,

I'm ignorant? Well genius those weren't stereo types I was describing. Those are groups that you want the government to fund. What happened to smaller goverment?
Still think I'm lying?

1. True. The Catholic church has a problem with pedophelia that it has never addressed and continues to hide from. Dodging lawsuites around the country and settling out of court to avoid exposure and responsabilty.

2. True-Their are religious groups in the USA that use venomous snakes as part of their religious practices, followed by violent shaking on the group to release the Deamons.

3.True-The Christian scientist are famous for not using doctors or tradional medicine.
In a case in PA. a child died from lackof care and the parents were prosecuted.

4.True-Dianetics is a religion with many thousands of followers. So are the Moonies, Hare Krishna's and several groups of occult warshippers regardless of your feelings to them.

Are all of these valid religions? Yes. Does one or all of them deserve to be goverment funded? No. The Catholic church is one of the wealthest orginizations in the world and they are tax free. Do people have a right to practice their religion? Yes, do they have the right to deny their chidren a functional education? No. Children have the RIGHT to and education that will allow them to function in this world. And tax payers have the right not to fund every golden sheep of a god that pops up in East bumble USA. Wich is exactly what we will be doing if this is past.

I know that you do not have the forethought to look past breakfast. But just imagine for a second all of the people that will pop up claiming to be school teachers around the country under the gise of religion. I can just see the class of 2018 walking down the isle to graduate from the Hale Bop comet High. Ahh, so proud.

F4UDOA

BTW, Why does God need money???

[F4UDOA]

Toad<S>,

That is a great quote by Sir Winston.

However he was voted out of office the very next term after the war.

As a matter of fact I am the exact opposite. As a younger less sympathetic man I was republican. As an older wiser man I am a Democrat.

Here is another quote you might like.

"To win a hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill"

SUN-TZU

[Toad]

What the "control freak" liberals forget is a truth so old that the philosophers of the most ancient civilizations espoused it:

"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws."
- Plato (427-347 B.C.)

People have not changed...nor has the nature of those who always "know what's best for you"...

Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.

-Daniel Webster

The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.

-H.L. Mencken

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

-C. S. Lewis  
 
 

[Toad]

F4UDOA:  Well that is a product of the one part of the constitution that you can remember. Although the "well regulated" and the "militia" part you can't seem to remember very well.

Well, most people accept Thomas Jefferson  as an eminent authority on what the Constitution means. Explain these views of his, please:

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks." --Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785. ME 5:85, Papers 8:407

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:45


"One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. ME 9:341

"I learn with great concern that [one] portion of our frontier so interesting, so important, and so exposed, should be so entirely unprovided with common fire-arms. I did not suppose any part of the United States so destitute of what is considered as among the first necessaries of a farm-house." --Thomas Jefferson to Jacob J. Brown, 1808. ME 11:432

"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms (within his own lands or tenements)." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution (with his note added), 1776. Papers 1:353

Perhaps you are the one refusing to acknowledge the true intent of the Bill of Rights?



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