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« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2006, 04:07:01 PM »
Okay thanks. Anyone have any fun/nice pics/stories about 109s? ill post some of my in-game pics here.

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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2006, 04:36:35 PM »


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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2006, 05:59:44 PM »
Hi Murdr,

>Ahh, thanks Hun.  I always wondered about that discrepancy.

Glad I could help! :-)

On re-reading my post, I think I my choice of word was lacking in (at least ;-) one point: Just as Bruno pointed out, "Fritz" is indeed a short form for "Friedrich", independend of the phonetic code, but apparently in 1934 the abbreviated form was written into the phonetic code officially.

So it's not as if Bruno was wrong, just that the abbreviation became the official code in 1934.

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« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2006, 06:26:31 PM »
I've been trying to learn the 109's as well.Me an Plantano had some good duels last week.Look me up some time on the weekend and I'll show you what little I know about the 109's.Shouldnt take more than 10 minutes of your time.

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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2006, 07:06:44 PM »
What's your opinion on the best gun loadout on the G-14?

I love the hits from the tatergun, but the MG-151 carries a bit more ammo and has better ballistics.  One person told me that the only compelling reason to take the G-14 over the G-2 was the 30mm option.  Was told the G-2 was much more nimble and more forgiving than the -14.

And, if taking the 30mm with the G-14 is the more effective gun package, is there a reason to take the -14 over the later, faster, better climbing K-4 model?

Thanks!!
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« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2006, 08:02:06 PM »
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I've been trying to learn the 109's as well.Me an Plantano had some good duels last week.Look me up some time on the weekend and I'll show you what little I know about the 109's.Shouldnt take more than 10 minutes of your time.



Understatement?  :D

I can remember aa hurri mk1 vs your g2 or g6 not sure which it was....but it was a great fight.  It's not often that you will find a 109 that wants to turn with a hurri mk1 :)

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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2006, 08:55:00 PM »
CRETON?!? YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT?!?

1. YOU are NOT just learning. I have never seen a single person land more 6-kill-victories in a 109 K-4!!!

2. It would be my greatest honor to learn from you!



And the gun load for the G-14:

Personally, that depends on the target. If you are straffing a town, take the G-14/R-6. Otherwise, the 30mm is good for close range (600-) and the 20mm for long (600+). I like the 30mm, because if you are good enough, you can do anything with it. If you learn to tap, and fire just one cannon round at a time, youll do great. I spent 8 minutes once following a La-La from 600 behind and losing ground fast. I just kept tapping firring one round at a time, and finally i hit him with just one round, and he went spiralling down. Its a powerful enough gun, that as long as you are accurate enough, you only need one round per fighter A/C you are going to attack.

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« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2006, 08:57:04 PM »
Oh, and my pics above: (the one with just one wing) Thats why you dont drink and fly kids!

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« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2006, 10:49:57 PM »
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And, if taking the 30mm with the G-14 is the more effective gun package, is there a reason to take the -14 over the later, faster, better climbing K-4 model?

Thanks!!


G-14 is lighter and more manueverable thats all






oh and BTW nice pics reynolds especially the last one....One thing i couldnt  help but notice is that you were firing all of your weapons at once...Wat I tend to do is leave the 30mm for a shot that I know I'm not gonna miss.. It looks like you are a bit far for a 30mm cannon hit... In a situtaion like that i would fire my cowl guns only...
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« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2006, 11:24:30 PM »
i though there was a long range mk108 hit srite in there & thats what made it notable

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« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2006, 11:40:34 PM »
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G-14 is lighter and more manueverable thats all


But...

As I was asking before, if you want lighter and more maneuverable, wouldn't the G-2 fill that role better than the G-14?  I guess I'm just trying to fit the G-14 into a niche within the 109 family.  The G-2 seems to outmaneuver it, while the K-4 does everything else better.  It seems like the -14 gets put into the category of a sluggish G-2, or a slow K-4...
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« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2006, 12:13:42 AM »
G-14 can hit like a mother ****er. Oh, and platano, that was a staged pic. I was actually supposed to shoot the guy in front of that guy, but my icons were off, and i didnt know there was anyone else up. That pic is from the TA, recognize it?

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« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2006, 03:55:47 AM »
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But...

As I was asking before, if you want lighter and more maneuverable, wouldn't the G-2 fill that role better than the G-14?  I guess I'm just trying to fit the G-14 into a niche within the 109 family.  The G-2 seems to outmaneuver it, while the K-4 does everything else better.  It seems like the -14 gets put into the category of a sluggish G-2, or a slow K-4...


Yes warspawn correct..the G-2 is lighter and more nimble but the guns are infererior compred to a G-14.. G-14 packs 2x12.7mm MG's plus the option of a 30mm OR a 20mm cannon in the nose...G-2 has 2x7.7mm MG's with a 20mm cannon in the nose...no option for a 30mm on the G-2..

all a G-14 really is a 109 in a G2 body frame with an improved engine and weapons (2x12.7MG's and the 30mm cannon)..thus making it heavier and less manuverable than  a G-2..In a way it falls between the categories of a G6 and a K-4
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« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2006, 04:04:10 AM »
Hey platano, wanna help me w/ my pics tomorrow? 18:45 GMT in TA. Check the screenshots board for my thread, it has more details!

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so what was 109c`s callsign?
« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2006, 09:58:17 AM »